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 Flying High Again – An Interview with Asia’s Geoff Downes

 
 




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Hell hath frozen over!  The original four members of the prog/pop supergroup Asia have reunited and recorded a new album titled Phoenix out this month on EMI in America.  The band consists of Geoff Downes on keyboards, Carl Palmer on drums, Steve Howe on guitar and John Wetton on vocals.  The original four struck gold back in ’82 with the release of their debut album but there follow up effort, Alpha, was a hit and miss affair that saw Steve Howe running for the door to escape the overtly pop music contained on the album. 

Wetton and Howe had a personality clash, to say the least, perhaps a personality explosion is a better description.  The duo came from different places and the fact that Wetton was as much at home on a bar stool as he was on stage did not help matters.  Eventually everyone but Downes disappeared and the band went through a transformation from  supergroup to a group barely hanging on.   That is not to say that during this time Asia were not a good band capable of writing and recording good music – they were.  However, the magic of the debut album was gone and despite each member making a guest appearance here and there over the years it was never recaptured.   

Fast forward to 2006...  With the 25th Anniversary looming only a year away interest in the reformation of the original members seemed to keep finding itself on the table.  Wetton and Downes were writing and recording again as part of the Icon project.  Howe and Palmer were actually available and interested.  Wetton had quit drinking and the rest of the band were more mature as well.  They met and within two hours the foundation was laid for a tour.  During the tour the magic was still there and the band took the next step and began writing and recording a new album.  Wetton nearly sidelined the project when he had a heart attack followed by extensive surgery.  Instead of bailing, this time the band waited for him to recover and now it is official --- the Phoenix has risen from the ashes.  Asia has returned.   


 Jeb: You have kept Asia together all these years.  Did you ever think the day would come when Asia would have the original members back and record a new album?  

Geoff: I think it was always something that was a possibility but all four members had to want to make it happen.  It was two years ago when we sat down and decided to do it.  It was a dream come true for the old fans because many never got to see us when we first appeared.  It was an alignment of the planets where everyone was available to do it and everybody wanted to do it.   

Jeb: Asia’s trouble happened in the studio.   

Geoff: We really played it bit by bit.  We didn’t want to set our expectations too high.  It was a good idea to go out and do the 25th Anniversary Tour.  We all were getting on quite well and we got offered to do the studio album.  The general moral and spirit within the band was very high.  It came across when we went into the studio as well.   

Jeb: As an Asia fan, Phoenix really goes where the band should be as they are older and more mature.   

Geoff: I think it is a continuation.  You are talking about a great gap in the middle from when the original members recorded.  We are all quite a bit older now and we are more mature.  The album is deep in a slightly different well.  The existing sound that the four of us make is undeniable in the way that it will come out.   

Jeb: You had both an emotional and business interest in Asia.  Was it stressful to let your band mates go in order to get back with Steve Howe, Carl Palmer and John Wetton?  

Geoff: It was a difficult time but I think we had really taken the other version of Asia as far as we could.  I had nearly got to the point in my own mind to where I was not going to continue.  The opportunity came to reunite the original band and that was a breath of really fresh air; it is a whole new chapter in the band’s history.  It you are realistic about it, I think the albums we made in-between were justifiable albums that had a good sound to them.  But again, you have to look at what people really want to see and generally speaking, people wanted to see the original lineup.   

We all felt that if we don’t do this now then we are never going to do it.  We were all on the brink of wanting to do this right now.  If we had left it then we would not have had the chance to do this again.  We all grabbed it with both hands and said, “Let’s do it.”  We have a very good catalog.  We didn’t actually know each other that well back in the early days.  We were all thrown into this thing together and we were very successful.  We were all bowled over by the roller coaster effect.  We have now had all this time to ponder on it and we came back with how we wanted to do it.  We want to respect everybody’s comfort zones and just do what we do best, which is the four of us making music together.   

Jeb: The advance CD doesn’t show the writing credits.  Did John and you write most of the music?  

Geoff: We tend to write in a certain way that is a key part to Asia – I am not saying it is the whole deal because I think Steve’s [Howe] input is very important because he adds a whole different dimension.  John [Wetton] and myself are the commercial writers who concentrate on the more melodic, pop style.  Steve’s input is more out of left field.  Add Carl [Palmer] and you have the sound that makes Asia.  We were very conscious of keeping that balance on this album.  This is not the Icon show where John and I write all the songs.   

Jeb: One song I want to mention is the song “Heroine.”  That is a beautiful ballad.   

Geoff: That is a Wetton/Downes song and it is the kind of song we have written for years together.  It is a very personal song for John, as are quite a number of songs on the album.  John had his problems over the years and this has all come out as he has rediscovered himself.   

Jeb: John has survived his own substance abuse issues and then in the middle of this thing he had the heart surgery.   

Geoff: I think that he put quite a bit of that into the album.  He feels that he has been given quite a few chances and this is his way of showing it.  The lyrics on this album are very personal to John.  I think the other three of us just stood aside and allowed John to do what he does best.  When you couple it with the whole idea of the Phoenix then it encapsulates all of our personal experiences very well.   

Jeb: A couple songs still have some of the progressive pop that was so successful on the first album.  Take for instance “Parallel World/Vortex.”   

Geoff: We do feel the musicality is still very important to Asia and that is one thing that has never really departed from the band.  We try to make these melodic songs appealing and personal but also we perform them in the realm of progressive music.  Getting the balance of those two elements is quite difficult.  We are always quite conscious of how we create the music.   

Jeb: When John and you sit down after all this time, does the music come easy?  

Geoff: We have a very similar taste and understanding of music.  We come from quite similar backgrounds.  We were both brought up on English church music and that influence never really leaves you.  When we sit down to write a song there is a lot of stuff that goes by unsaid that we both understand and that makes for an easy collaboration.  A lot of the songs that we have written for Asia over the years have emerged over fifteen or twenty minutes.  I will have an idea and he will have idea and we kind of marry the two up and then it is just a case of getting the lyrics and the arrangement worked up.  

Jeb: Asia and not ELP or Yes is on a major label.   

Geoff: I don’t think we expected to get back to a major label; that was a major bonus.  The deal for the album was brought forth from an Italian company that does a lot of progressive rock.  We have a lot of contacts at EMI and they heard the music and said that they wanted the music for America.  It is very encouraging that we still have the kind of profile in the band to be able to command being released on a major label.   

Jeb: It speaks a lot for your success.  I don’t think you can repeat the first album again.... 

Geoff: In all honestly we are not setting our sites on any kind of heights at all.  We are happy to go out and play live to reasonable audiences and to have the ability to make a new album.  Big bands that were around when we were around do not have the same opportunity as we do because it is not easy these days as the music scene has changed so much.   

Jeb: Did the 25th Anniversary Tour open your eyes to how many Asia fans are still out there? 

Geoff: I think it was an honest thing to do.  The great thing was that a lot of fans who had never seen us before were able to see the band.  Also, they were able to see us play some Yes material, ELP material and King Crimson material.  All of that makes for a very great musical experience.  It really made for an interesting night.  

Jeb: As a music fan do you ever sit back on stage and think to yourself, “I am playing with Steve Howe, Carl Palmer and John Wetton.” 

Geoff: Yeah I do actually.  I am the youngest in the band and when I was in college studying for my exams I was listening to Yes and ELP albums.  Sometimes I look out and think, “I am playing with these guys.  This is weird.”  Time has gone by and you realize what a great privilege it is to do something that you love doing.

Jeb: Did Roger Dean do the artwork for the album?  

Geoff: Roger did do the artwork; we got him out of retirement again.  Roger’s artwork is synonymous with the band.  I think that it was a no brainer to ask him to do the cover for Phoenix.  Roger was the man for the job and he has come up with a fabulous piece of artwork.  The days of the great vinyl covers are over but we sell posters at the gigs and we have it on t-shirts.   

Jeb: Last one: Which Asia song is more fun to play: “Only Time Will Tell” or “Heat of the Moment?”  

Geoff: Probably “Heat of the Moment” is more fun to play because it is less stressful in terms of the arrangement. “Only Time Will Tell” has quite a complex arrangement and I still find myself having to really focus hard on that one.  “Heat of the Moment” is not as complex concerning the keyboard arrangement so I tend to relax on that one. 

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