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  Undercover - An Exclusive interview with Everclear's Art Alexakis

 
 




 

Musician's Friend Stupid Deal of the Day
 

 

 By Jeb Wright

Everclear may be known as a Grunge band who hit fame and fortune in the 1990's but their front man, Art Alexakis, is a big classic rock fan, so much so that the band's new album, The Vegas Years, is nothing but classic covers the band has made over the years. 

Art has eclectic tastes and the covers here range from Thin Lizzy to Neil Young to Tommy Tutone.  In each case, the cover is not done true to the original; instead Alexakis prefers to put Everclear's unique sound on each track.  The result is a pretty fun album to listen too. 

Read on as we discuss bands like Cheap Trick, the Yaz and even Little Jimmy Dickens and learn why each song is special to Art - even the one I don't like the remake of!


Jeb: You have wanted to do a covers album for sometime.

Art: I have always liked doing covers but they have to sound like the band I am in.  I think they are a good idea.  If they sound just like the band you are covering then you are a Top 40 band but if you are doing a representation of it then I think it is fun. 

Jeb: These cover songs are all done in the style of Everclear. 

Art: It sounds like us.  We have had a few misses but most of them end up in the wastebasket where they ought to be.  You record it and you play it for some people and if they laugh about it then you throw it away. 

Jeb: Some of the songs are not ones people would expect.  Take for instance "Pocahontas" by Neil Young. 

Art: I just love that fucking song.  I've always wanted to hear a rocking version of it.  I love the way Neil does it and I don't think we are bettering it but we do it with a lot of respect.  I broke out with this Ted Nugent like lead guitar in the middle of it and it seemed to fit.  It is a pretty pissed off song.  Lyrically, it is talking about some serious atrocities and I just think that it calls for some anger. 

Jeb: You even have a cover of "Land of the Lost."

Art: Did you used to watch that show?

Jeb: I did and I laughed my ass off. 

Art: We were asked to record it for a tribute record of Saturday morning songs.  We recorded that song and we also recorded "Best Friend" that was the theme song from Courtship of Eddie's Father.  It ended up not working out so we just decided to re-record "Land of the Lost."  It came out almost Zeppelin. 

Jeb: You have "Speed Racer" on this album as well. 

Art: We recorded "Speed Racer" for ESPN back in 1996. 

Jeb: You covered a great Cheap Trick song.  You pulled out "Southern Girls." 

Art: We recorded that in 1996 for a Cheap Trick tribute record that never saw the light of day.  I wanted to put some organ and bigger guitars on the song when I heard the song when we were going through the vaults.

I grew up loving Cheap Trick.  My fifteen-year-old daughter adores Cheap Trick.  When you call her cell phone you get the original version of "Southern Girls."  She said that I got that from her and I told her that she needed to step back because I had been rocking to that song since I was sixteen. 

Jeb: I think your era is heavily influenced by Cheap Trick. 

Art: Absolutely.  They were a huge influence on Nirvana and us and any band that has a Beatles twist to it mixed with melodically rye lyrics and aggression.

I have a funny story I want to tell you.  I went to see Kansas on New Years Eve but the main reason I went - this is back in 1977 - is because I had been reading about this band called Cheap Trick in Rolling Stone but I didn't have any money to buy the album because I was only fifteen.  I went with my buddy in his car and he had a cassette of Cheap Trick.  We listened to it all the way there and then I saw them and I thought they were fucking awesome.  Driving back that night I took my friends cassette - I didn't steal it, I just told him I was taking it.  I went up to my room when I got home and I put my big old Koss headphones - actually they were my sister's; I snagged them out of her room.  I locked my door and I sat there and I learned how to play that whole record.  I stayed up all night figuring it out. 

Jeb: Which album was it?

Art: It was In Color.  I have to do this thing for this online survey of my Top 10 albums of all time and I am not sure where it is going to end up but it will be on there because it is just a classic rock n' roll record. 

Jeb: Cheap Trick is still awesome in concert. 

Art: Robin Zander's voice?  He could break glass with that thing. 

Jeb: You did "Kicks" by Paul Revere and the Raiders and you really breathed life into that track.  It is one of my favorites on the CD.

Art: It was a lot of fun doing that one.  Some songs just seem like they need to rock a little more.  When it came out in 1964 it was really rocking and the lyrics were pretty deep for that time period.  The song came out when the Beatles were singing "I Want to Hold Your Hand."  The song has a guitar riff that I can't get out of my head.  Mark Lindsay, the singer for Paul Revere, got inducted into the Oregon Music Hall of Fame and he asked us to be his backing band.  We did "Kicks" and then we did a song that I swore that I would never play and that is "Louie Louie."  Can you believe I got into my mid-forties without playing "Louie Louie?"

Jeb: Not any more!

Art: I will tell you this: It was a rocking version of the song. 

Jeb: I am not a Hall & Oates guy but you really pulled "Rich Girl" off well. 

Art: I think that chorus is just amazing.  The melody is awesome but I never liked the verses because it sounded like they were trying too hard to be soul guys.  So when we did it I got these background pads going and these big guitars playing staccato rhythm and the songs ended up really sounding like Everclear. 

Jeb: How much toying around do you do with the covers? 

Art: Most of the time it just comes right out.  "American Girl" was the first song we recorded with our drummer Greg Eklund back in 1994.  We had just got signed to Capital and they asked us to record this song for a tribute record.  Greg had never heard the original version of the song so I taught it to him like it was an Everclear song.  We recorded it in three or four hours. 

Jeb: I am not going to kiss your butt too much because I am going to tell you the song that you covered that I didn't like.  I never have liked your version of "The Boys are Back in Town" by Thin Lizzy. 

Art: Really?  I didn't want to do that classic harmonized guitar part that everybody knows.  I did a harmonized part but it was different than the original.  It is funny, I recorded that for a Kiss movie called Detroit Rock City.  We even did a video for it with a bunch of porn stars.  It was even on our greatest hits.  The thing I didn't like about the original is probably something that you did like.  I didn't like the swinging, Dixieland rhythm. 

Jeb: You hit the nail on the head.  I am a huge Lizzy fan and I just could not get past the rhythm change and the classic lick being altered. 

Art: I get that.  I really love that cover.  Just to validate the cover, the head of Island Def Jam at the time had gotten his start back in the 70's as a roadie for Thin Lizzy.  He was a good friend and a drug buddy of Phil Lynott.  After Phil died he got clean.  He came to me and he said, "I have to tell you something.  Phil would have been really impressed with your vocal on that song.  You really made it your own but the version gives respect to the original."  I thought that was cool coming from someone who was close to the dude who did the song.  I wanted to do "Cowboy Song."  I love Thin Lizzy.  I am into Johnny the Fox and Jailbreak.  Phil had a great voice and the band played amazing melodic hard rock. 

Jeb: I was impressed that you did "Bad Connection." 

Art: The Yaz just got back together.  Back in '81 I was a punk rock kid who would not listen to any band that played keyboards.  We went to see this cover band and the singer was a really hot chick.  We ended up together for about three weeks just having drunken sex.  She was totally into synth rock.  I turned her onto the band X and she turned me onto the Yaz.  It really helped me to recognize that a great song is a great song no matter what. 

Jeb: "Nightrain to Memphis" is probably the most un-Everclear sounding song.  In fact I think it is close to the original.

Art: Really?  Well, I guess it is if you are talking arrangement.  I grew up with that song.  My mom would play that song and play Little Jimmy Dickens.  We would sit in the rocker and she would hold me and smoke her Kools and drink a half a Coors Light and we would listen to Country songs.  She taught me how to sing harmony. 

Jeb: Did your mom influence you covering Woody Guthrie?

Art: I got into a Woody kick when I started writing songs when I was twenty-one or twenty-two.  I got into Pete Seeger and then Bob Dylan and then Woody.  I probably shouldn't have done his most famous song.  I did it as an anthem for this environmental cause.  They were trying to stop logging on some land that was coming up for sale on an auction.  We went in the studio and we knocked out "This Land is Your Land" in a couple of hours.  I went back in and we added some keyboards and more guitars. 

Kids come up to me and tell me that they used to sing that song in school.  That song was very subversive when it came out.  "This land is your land / this land is my land" is a totally Communist statement at the time it came out.  Woody was a Red through and through.  They didn't take kindly to that back in the 1930's.  I recorded that in 2004 and when I was a delegate to the Democratic National Convention I played the song on CNN when I was interviewed by Wolf Blitzer.  He said, "There is a guitar over there.  Play us a song."  I said, "What do you want?"  He said, "Play something patriotic."  I said, "Really?"  So I picked up the guitar and started playing "This Land is Your Land."  The producer cut in and said that was enough but Wolf said, "I want to hear him play a couple more verses." 

Jeb: Are you going to be pulling these out when you are playing live?

Art: We already play "Brown Eyed Girl" in our acoustic set and I do "Jenny, Jenny" at the end. 

Jeb: Did you leave any covers off?

Art: There were some songs that were recorded that didn't make the record.  "Walk, Don't Run" by the Ventures is one of them. 

Jeb: Everclear's last album came out on a smaller label but Vegas Days is coming out on a major.  Do you miss being on a major label?

Art: Not at all.  They owned a lot of the masters to these songs so after we brought it up they wanted to put it out.  I wanted them to license me the songs so I could put it out but they wanted to do it so I went along with it. 

Jeb: You recently said you were more hungry now than you have been in a long time.  Can you expound on that?

Art: I have that hunger to express myself through writing.  I don't have as much money as I had at one time but I am not complacent.  I got emotionally complacent for a while and then I had some kicks in my ass.  I think it made me a better person and a better singer/songwriter.  I want to put out a downloaded single every couple of months because that is the future.  We are going to put out this song called "Jesus was a Liberal."  I am sure I am not going to get invited to Pat Robertson's birthday party. 

Jeb: You were out of control with sex and drugs for a while.  Why did the light bulb go off for you to change?

Art: I don't know.  All I know is that I want to write more songs.  I have had less success and I have had more success but right now I am really happy.  I have a new baby in my life and I have a fifteen-year-old daughter.  I have a woman in my life who loves me and puts up with my weirdness.  She married me when I wasn't really flowing with money.  I had just gone through bankruptcy and was forty pounds underweight - that has got to be love.  There was no gold digging there.  I have my bad days like anybody but I am really blessed and I am in a great rock n' roll band. 

Jeb: A lot of your fans were worried that you might become a casualty to rock n' roll. 

Art: That is because they were reading the MySpace pages of the guys who used to be in the band.  If you talk to someone's ex then they are going to say what an asshole they were.  You can't take that serious because that is not objective.  If you want to know what is going on then just ask me and I will tell you what is going on.  I am the only guy on our MySpace page so if you write me there then I will get your message.  I read all the comments.  I think it is nice having a closer relationship with our fans.  I think technology is really great and allows you to do a lot of things but sometimes the things people do are not good. 

Jeb: What is it about the classic rock era that sticks with a guy like you?

Art: I don't want to be judgmental and make opinionated statements on this question.  I think when people are young and they find music they love then it sticks with them.  Bands like Cheap Trick, Kiss and Aerosmith were all bands I found on my own. 

Jeb: I miss the days of going into a record store and buying an album because it had a cool cover. 

Art: I used to do that too.  I got burned on that a couple of times. 

Jeb: I was a total metal head when I was in my early teens.  I bought a live album by the Grateful Dead - who I love now but did not then.  I saw the skeleton and I thought I was getting metal but I got home and got a bunch of hippie shit. 

Art: I used to look at Dead records and I thought that skull thing was totally bitching.  I had a friend in school who was totally into the Dead and he told me they were totally electric and awesome.  I told him to play me some stuff.  He played "Truckin'" and I was like, "Fuck that."  I didn't want any part of that. 

Jeb: Last one: Would Ted Nugent's politics keep you from doing a cover version of one of his songs. 

Art: Probably not but I don't think I would do a tour with him.  This is funny: We put out a song out called "Hater" in 2004.  We did a cheap video and it really pissed off a lot of right wing people.  They denounced me on the PTL Club - I thought that was pretty cool.  Bill O'Reilly asked me to come on the show so I did.  A little bit later on I found out that Ted Nugent's management called my management and wanted to talk to me about it.  I knew Ted was a pretty right wing freak of nature but that little kid in me didn't want my hero to be dashed in front of me.  Ted called me and he told me that he was a huge fan of how I handle myself and he said the video was great. 

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