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 Taking a Right Turn – an Interview with Ricky Byrd

 
 




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by Jeb Wright

On Sunday, April 13th the Berklee Performance Center will host a star studded charity even to raise money for the drug and alcohol rehab center Right Turn. The headline event will feature Chuck Berry performing with an all-star band including Chad Smith, Chuck Leavell, Simon Kirke and Ricky Byrd. Byrd, most famous for his tenure with Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, has also shared the stage with Roger Daltrey, Ian Hunter and most recently as a member of the Asbury Jukes.

The event is close to Byrd’s heart as he has, one day at a time, recovered from his own addiction for more than twenty consecutive years. Now he is giving back to an event aimed at giving drug treatment to creative people and their families.

In this interview Byrd discusses his nervousness of sharing the stage with a legend as well as recounting his own recovery. Be sure to check out www.right-turn.org to learn more about the gig and how you can make a donation to the cause.  


Jeb: You’re getting ready to jam with Chuck Berry.

Ricky: That’s not too shabby. First of all, the cause is great. It is for Right Turn, which is a treatment center started by Woody Giessmann from The Del Fuegos. He runs the treatment center for musicians and artists that gives help to musicians and artists who have addiction problems and provides help for their families. He wants to start a center in New York, Nashville and LA, where the artist communities are.

Jeb: How did you get involved with Right Turn?

Ricky: He asked me to be on the board of directors – Simon Kirke is on the board as well. A few months went by and I had not heard from anyone. Simon called me up and told me about the gig and asked if I wanted to be the guitar player. The next thing you know Skunk Baxter is on board as is Chuck Leavell, Tim Reis, the Stones sax player. Chad Smith from the Red Hot Chilli Peppers is also playing and then they got Chuck Berry.

Jeb: Have you played with Chuck before?

Ricky: I did back in the Blackheart days. We played some gigs in the late ‘80's and he was hanging out with Joan. I watched from the side of the stage and I talked to him a few times but he was more interested in Joan.

Jeb: I think it is cool that Chuck is doing this at age 81.

Ricky: You know my roots. My heart lies with the Stones and the Faces and Humble Pie and also with Otis Redding and Al Green. My guitar playing is totally Chuck Berry on one side and then bluesy on the other side. I have been playing Chuck Berry riffs since I was a little kid. The rhythm that he plays – which we call mop ‘em in the guitar world because it goes mop ‘em, mop ‘em mop ‘em, like in "Little Queenie." His rhythm guitar is what made me want to play rock n’ roll. It might have been the Faces doing "Stay with Me" but that drove me back when I found out they liked Chuck.

Jeb: Does the kid in you get excited to play with Chuck Berry?

Ricky: Are you kidding? The backing band is amazing. Legend goes that Chuck shows up to the gig right before he is about to go on and he has an Eldorado waiting on him. He pulls up with one guitar, says hi to the band, plays the gig and then leaves. His legend proceeds him; you are nervous that halfway through the show he is going to turn around and tell you to piss off.

Jeb: He had no problem doing that to Keith Richards.

Ricky: So what is he going to do to me? He may tell me to sit down and let Skunk play. You also don’t know what songs you are going to play. I am going to take my iPod with me and listen to the greatest hits on the road trip up there. You don’t know what key he is going to play it in or how fast he is going to play. He just kicks into the song. There is no set list.

Jeb: How long did it take to sign up all the players?

Ricky: From the time Simon called me it was like two months; it happened really fast. There is going to be a comedian first and then some of the guys from the original Boston are going to play and then the all-star band comes on and plays for about 45-minutes. I am going to sing a couple of songs and Simon is going to play "All Right Now" and "Can’t Get Enough." I think Chuck Leavell is going to do "Statesboro Blues" and "Honky Tonk Woman." After we are done, Chuck is going to come on and we are going to go through his set. The gig is on Sunday, April 13th at the Berklee Performance Center. One hundred percent of the proceeds are going to the treatment center.

Jeb: Do you feel musicians have a need for a treatment center that’s focus is on their addiction? Are they that different from the common person?

Ricky: I think there is a higher incident of musicians’ without health insurance. Artists don’t have that on the top of their list. They need to pay the rent and find the next gig. There are millions of people without health insurance but I think the nature of the beast of being a musician is unique. This is not for just famous musicians’, it is for all who have problems with alcohol and drugs. They don’t know where to turn and their families don’t know how to handle it. It is an interesting question. You have to think that musicians are up all night playing in clubs and drugs are easy to get in the music world. You hang out in clubs so it makes it a little more difficult.

Jeb: Recovery places a value on fellowship and being around other recovering people. The musicians will have a strong bond with each other.

Ricky: There will be safe rooms in concerts in certain towns where everyone will be totally sober. They can hang out in a safe environment. When I was out with Joan Jett, before I got sober, it was lunacy. When we went out with Aerosmith we were not even allowed to have beer backstage.

Jeb: I am hoping this will help a lot of people.

Ricky: There are a lot of people out there who have still not seen the light. It is amazing to me to see people my age and older who are still out there rocking and are still drinking and doing blow every night. Ike Turner just died from doing blow and he was 76 – that is ludicrous. The guy from Quiet Riot, Kevin Dubrow, just died as well. He was only a little older than me.

Jeb: What made you get out of the party lifestyle?

Ricky: I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. I had a moment of clarity. I am a lucky guy because I didn’t go to rehab. I walked into my first meeting on September 25, 1987 and have been sober ever since. They were rough times. My main thing is boredom. Every once and a while I miss not knowing where the night is going to lead. It is not a matter of wanting to use but sometimes you just get bored. It is a daily reprieve from the illness that makes me want to do really bad things.

Jeb: You have to learn that if you don’t want to be bored then you have to do things that will lead to not being bored. You can’t live on instant gratification anymore.

Ricky: You have to entertain yourself. You have to be content with who you are but you can’t be complacent. You have to find excitement in your kid’s eyes – you have to learn where to look. Let’s face it, nothing is going to be as large as playing Shea Stadium and having a # 1 record. You have to be adult enough to say, "That was then and things change." It is difficult coming from that place. That is why we are looking at these people like Britney Spears on TMZ every day. The Blackhearts had their moment where we were playing these giant stadiums and everyone was making a fuss over us. Once the gig is over then you go back to this silent hotel room and your brain doesn’t know how to take it. You start missing your family but you know that you really want to be where you are at. So, you start using to mask all your feelings and deal with the reality of your situation. It is a terrible cycle.

Jeb: I would say you were a better musician than you were in the Blackhearts.

Ricky: That is tough one. I would say that I was a better guitar player than was needed in that band. I am not taking anything away from them because they are a great band but I think I do other things that take me to other places. I love three-chord rock n’ roll but I wanted to do a lot of other things. When I would play the blues then I would get some weird looks from them. When I went into record the solo to "I Love Rock n’ Roll" I kept recording solos and they kept chipping away at it until I came up with that simple thing that is on the record. It turned out to be a classic guitar break so where do you put that one? I tore it down to the most minimal guitar break I could do and it ended up becoming a classic guitar break.

Jeb: When your talent level exceeds the music you are playing does that lead to boredom?

Ricky: No, I was never bored in that band. I had a great time. At the end when I was ready to leave in order to do other things that I wanted to do I would find myself standing on stage and start daydreaming about other stuff. I knew it was time to leave at that point because I knew it was not fair to Joan or the band. My heart was not in it anymore. I got sober in 1987 and I left them in 1993. It changed at that time. I hated being away from my family and things were a lot more clear. It just didn’t do anything for my like it did when I was using. I was grateful for it and I did some great gigs sober but I was ready to go. I would find myself in the middle of the set thinking, "I wonder what I am going to eat tonight." It was time to go.

Jeb: Did you play under the influence?

Ricky: I played loaded. I smoked a lot of pot. Most of the other stuff was left for before and after the shows. I got into the routine of smoking a little pot before the show and after the show I would drink a couple of Heineken’s and get on the bus and do a bunch of blow and I would be up all night. I would not get to sleep until two in the afternoon and then it was time to get ready to go to the gig. Even when I was not loaded I was loaded. I think only once or twice did I ever do blow right before the show. It was horrible. I am a cocaine user who needs more five minutes after he finishes so that was hard to do. I only did that twice in twelve years.

Jeb: Did it bother you to get up in front of a crowd sober?

Ricky: No, I don’t have any problem with that at all. There is no doubt that some amazing music was written when people were drunk and high. A lot of books were written the same way. After a while though it wears you out and it starts using you. A lot of the music from the sixties was great and you have to ask yourself if that music could have been written while sober. The music really opens your mind. Just look at Hendrix’s music. I know I am way better at everything now then when I was using but that might be because I have been playing so much longer. I am funny on stage and I am solid. We are all still drunken sailors but we just don’t drink. The personality is still there but I just don’t use.

Jeb: Is the charity for Right Turn a way for you to give back?

Ricky: It is a way to give back but it is also a good gig. I did a thing a year ago in Washington, D.C. with Liberty Devitto and Nils Lofgren and it was great. It is always a lot of fun.

Jeb: I want to end the interview with one of your favorite subjects: Baseball. What is up with Roger Clemens?

Ricky: I don’t really give a shit about that. I never really thought much of him other than the fact that he is an incredible pitcher. I have never thought of him as a wonderful man. Derek Jeter is an upstanding citizen. I think Andy Pettite made a couple of mistakes.

The whole premise of rock n’ roll was to be slightly on the illegal side and slightly on the swashbuckling, pirate side. You expect rock n’ rollers to be morons but these guys are supposed to be role models – whether they think so or not. Baseball is America’s pastime and they are supposed to be healthy and live a certain lifestyle. They are also making a lot of money to be role models.

It starts really early when they are being scouted. Your peers are doing steroids and they are getting bigger and stronger and performing better. It is probably the same reason you smoked your first joint. The kids have a lot of peer pressure and then they have the pressure to get to the next level. The guys in the majors are huge. Mickey Mantle used to go out and hit a home run after being out all night with Billy Martin getting drunk. They were all out of shape too.

I have a weird take on baseball right now. It is not my business how much money these guys make – I don’t have a dog in that race. I just love going out to the stadium and watching them play. I even love watching it on TV. It makes me feel like a twelve-year-old and I need to feel like that. It brings back memories of my dad or my grandparents taking me out to the game. I don’t give a shit about the luxury box seats or any of that. I mean, they are tearing down my stadium. They are tearing down Yankee Stadium and that is ludicrous. Am I going to watch it? Yes. I am not going to go there on the last day and cry like the people did when the Dodgers left Brooklyn.

Change is good and it happens. We have more important things going on in this world than Yankee Stadium getting torn down but it is like that expression, "that’s going to leave a mark." A piece of my heart is going to be broken because I grew up there. I can close my eyes and remember walking along between the concrete and concrete wall and it was really cool. It may be ninety degrees outside but it is cool by that wall. And then you come out and walk up that ramp and see that beautiful green grass – nothing beats that shit.

www.right-turn.org.
www.rickybyrd.com

                                                                                                                                                

 

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