Known as Jammer, this one word future icon is a nothing like other famous one namers, including Sting, Cher and Prince. In fact, he has more testosterone than all of them put together, including Cher! While he is not yet a household name, Jammer is doing all he can to get fans of classic speed metal to stand up and be counted. His band, Brute Forcz, is a throwback to the days of W.A.S.P. and Venom. They have yet to release an entire album, but have released four songs on an EP that was produced by music industry vet, guitar hero and brother of ex-Kiss guitarist Bruce Kulick, Bob Kulick.

Bob saw something in the band and helped them craft a sound that is 100% pure metal. Raw, rough, strong, loud, funny, passionate and rude, the music is a true reflection of Jammer and his band mates personalities. They love this shit and they are cranking it up to 11 and giving it their all.

Read the interview below to learn how Jammer and his brothers went from Rock n’ Roll Wrestlers to members of Bruce Forcz. Keep an ear out for this band and be ready to bang you head like its 1988.

Jammer: Brute Forcz started way back when we got out of high school. My brother and I, who is in Brute Forcz, wanted to start a cover band because we wanted to make some money in Atlanta, Georgia. During that process we got the opportunity to become professional wrestlers. We couldn’t pass that up because we were getting paid to wrestle. We had a fifteen-year career as professional wrestlers. We did a lot of independent work and we trained at the WCW School in Atlanta. Towards the end of our career, we actually got a lot of opportunities to do some acting. While Atlanta is not Hollywood, they do get some acting stuff there. We got the opportunity to do something decent, so we went out to LA.

In 2003, we moved to LA to do the acting thing but the last couple of years have been pretty lean for actors because of strikes and the economy. The big actors always work but the middle guys don’t work at all. We realized that we missed the music. We are not big fans of the new Metal stuff that is out there. We are not critical of it but it is just not a style that we like. Last year, in January we started putting the band back together with a new guitar player and we played about forty shows.

Jammer: We had done a few demos but the guy that was recording us didn’t go a very good job. We gave him CDs by WASP, Motorhead and Motley Crue and we told him we wanted that kind of sound but we never got that sound. He just didn’t make us sound Metal at all. We were pretty bummed out. We work out at a gym called LA Fitness and we would see this guy walk through there, once and a while, and we were not sure who this guy was but we knew we knew him. Finally, it dawned on us that it was Bruce Kulick, who used to be in Kiss.

We finally cornered him in the gym one day and he was looking at us like, “Why are these two big gorillas cornering me in the gym? What did I do?” We were like, “Hey Bruce, what’s going on.” We told him that we used to be wrestlers and that we were in a band. We told him we were looking for someone in LA who could actually produce Metal music. Believe it or not, if you’re on the outside of the scene, all you have to choose from are people on Craig’s List and they don’t bring that metal sound. He told us about his brother, Bob, and we gave him our number and he said that he would tell him about us.

The first time we met Bob all we did was talk about wrestling because he said he loved that. We met his partner; Brett Chassen and we talked about doing music. We recorded four songs with them and they did a great job. Bob is a great musician and he really helped us with our sound and our vocals. He actually made us stronger than what we were. We were really happy to have worked with them. We are just throwing those songs out there and seeing what happens. We actually have about 13 or 14 songs completed but we just did these four songs for now.

Jammer: If I have four songs on an EP, everyone will ask me why I only have four songs, but if I do an album everyone is going to ask my why didn’t we just do an EP. You can’t win. I think all of our songs are good. They are old school style Metal and I just didn’t want to put them all out there in case they all got disregarded. We did throw it out there to test the waters, just like you said.

Jammer: We have not been called that yet. We have been called Venom, WASP and stuff like that. Any time someone says they hear somebody else in us, then we are all about that. We feel we are more like a Motorhead. We have that sound but people tell us we have our own style.

Jammer: You really do try to pick up a piece here and a piece there and then try to develop your own sound.

Jammer: You can see where our heads at.

Jammer: [laughter] We actually have one or two political songs, but all we are trying to do is to make music that you want to put in your car’s CD player, roll your windows down, blast it up and bang your head. We’re not trying to be complicated. Our motto is Big, Thick and In Your Face and that’s exactly what we are trying to do.

Jammer: All we hear in LA is the Death Metal guys where you can’t understand what they are saying. I get it and all but I don’t need anyone yelling and screaming at me. We have the guys that yell and scream and then harmonize and then they go back to yelling and screaming. I don’t know if we will ever get the chance to carry the banner for the older school sound but I would love to be the one to do that. There are not very many good Metal bands out there. All the older bands are good and they are still playing, like Judas Priest and Motley Crue, but you don’t hear many new bands coming up behind them, other than maybe Texas Hippie Coalition. I would love for us to be part of keeping that music alive.

Jammer: All of the ‘80’s bands started doing ballads and then bands like Nirvana came around. I am not sure what happened, as I was wrestling then. The only one left it seemed was Pantera. This generation, all they know are things like Slipknot and kids today think that is Metal but its not really Metal. I am not down on them, as they are very popular but that is not what we are all about. A band like Motorhead is real Heavy Metal. I think if there were more opportunities for people to see bands like them then they would be more likely to start getting into that style of music.

Jammer: If you run up on stage with them or us then you’re going to get your ass kicked [laughter]. We talked to Chip about that. The next thing we need to do is to get out on tour and start playing our music for people. It is very expensive to tour and the whole economy sucks right now. We are all fighting for scraps. It figures that our timing in life is off. We start acting and everyone goes on strike and now we go into music and the economy craps out.

Jammer: When we wrestled we were the Heavy Metal wrestlers. We had spiked up hair and saw blades all over us. We would walk out to “Seek & Destroy” by Metallica. When we started getting on ESPN then we couldn’t play that because of copyright infringements so we started walking out to our own music. It was a good time. People hated us because we had our hair all spiked up and we were crazy. Our outfits looked like something WASP or Kiss would wear. We had pop rivets with spikes through them and we had chainsaw blades with red paint on them that looked like blood and we would run up to the ring like that. We lived that style back then.

Jammer: One of my sisters showed me the Kiss Alive album; it was years after it came out. When I heard Shout at the Devil I was hooked. I got into WASP, Motorhead and Judas Priest after that. Before that, we always liked music but we were jocks. I liked all kinds of music but once I heard Metal and Hard Rock, I was hooked. When I saw Motley Crue on that album cover then I knew I wanted to do that.

Jammer: The plan is to work with Chip Ruggieri. We’re trying to get set up to do some of the Monster Jams out here in California next year. They have bands play before the Monster Jams and we are trying to be able to do that. We also want to be able to get on someone’s tour. We are trying to play anywhere we can. We will do whatever we can.

Jammer: We are trying to work that song with NASCAR. I think that is a perfect match. Every time we play out here someone comes up to us and says that we are the best sounding band they have heard in ages. We are pretty laid back guys and we are trying to be cool but we know our stuff is, at least, pretty good and we know there is a desire for this kind of music.

Jammer: It is really tough right now. You have to try to do anything you can do. We really appreciate people like you who are willing to interview us.

Jammer: Bob is an amazing musician. We are not amazing musicians, we are jack-of-all-trades musicians. Bob is a pro. When we were doing our guitar parts, Bob would be on the other side of the room paying attention to us. He would hear one note that was out of tune and he would stop us. We would say we were not out of tune but every time we checked, that one note was out of tune. I have never heard anyone with that kind of ear.

Bob will tell you exactly how it is; there is no bullshit and that is exactly what we want. He makes great suggestions of what you should do. We want someone to say that a note is wrong, or that your vocals are not good enough on that line. We are all open to what he says because of his expertise and his background. If we had our choice we would do all of our songs with him. We are thinking about going back into the studio to do the full album with him.

Jammer: The answer for that, for me and my and my brother, is no. We thought about getting jobs, but we don’t want to.
 

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