STILL PLAYING
THAT FUNKY MUSIC: AN INTERVIEW WITH FOGHAT’S BRYAN BASSETT
By
Jeb Wright
Bryan Bassett may not be a household name, yet
the guitarist has managed to stay in the music business for the
better part of 35 years. He is a performer, producer, engineer,
and songwriter and has a Billboard Pop Chart #1 hit on his
resume.
Even those who were burning disco records in the 1970’s owned
a copy of Wild Cherry’s debut album. “Play That Funky Music” is
one of those songs that has grown from being a hit single to
becoming part of America’s vernacular culture. The song has been
remade countless times and has been featured in dozens of
television shows and movies and it features Bryan Bassett on
guitar.
After Wild Cherry ended, Bryan became a mainstay at Florida’s
Kingsnake Studios, working on over a hundred records. He played
alongside Foghat and Savoy Brown co-founder Lonesome Dave
Peverett for years in Dave’s version of Foghat before joining
Dave and Roger Earl in Foghat proper until Peverett’s untimely
death in 2000. Bassett also recorded and toured with Molly
Hatchet for several years before coming back to Foghat, where he
continues on to the present day.
Bassett has experienced much, both positive and negative,
within the music industry and has retained a love, passion and
respect for music. He has the soul of a bluesman and the spirit
of a rock n’ roller making Foghat the perfect band for him to be
a member.
Foghat is currently on the road, promoting their critically
acclaimed and fan loved blues album Last Train Home.
Bassett gave the album his all, as he does everything that he is
involved in. He is a consummate professional, a genuine nice guy
and pretty damned good guitarist.
Read on to learn more about this funky, blues playing white
boy and what he has accomplished along his musical journey.
Jeb: Eddie Kirkland was on the album Last Train Home
by Foghat and it was so awesome having him be a part of it. It
is so sad that he passed away.
Bryan: We were devastated. It was so cool to rub shoulders
with a blues master, as there are not that many of them left.
Over the years I have had some great opportunities. I met John
Lee Hooker and Bo Diddley and a lot of guys like that. Blues was
their whole life and they lived it. Eddie lived on the road and
it was sad to hear that he died on the road. Eddie drove
everywhere. He probably spent fifty years of his life driving to
gigs. It is just horrible but I am not surprised as his whole
life all he did was drive gig to gig.
Jeb: I remember that Eddie drove to record the Foghat album
and that he actually had to fix his alternator, at eighty-some
years of age. And he still wanted to play that night.
Bryan: That is a true story. To have Eddie Kirkland knock on
your door and want to play the blues makes for a pretty good
day.
Jeb: You produce, write, engineer and tour…where do you find
the time?
Bryan: You just seem to find the time to do the things you
love. When I first relocated to Florida, which was in the late
1970’s, after I left Wild Cherry, I happened to meet Bob
Greenlee, who was the owner of Kingsnake Studios, which is a
blues roots label. I began hanging out there and I met most of
the good friends that I have to this day at that studio. I began
doing some sessions and then before you know it, fifteen years
and a hundred albums have gone by. I have been involved with
over 100 blues albums with that label as a guitarist, producer
and mixer. We did stuff for other blues labels as well.
Being on a blues label is certainly not a money making
proposition but it was a great place, musically. We were making
a record every two weeks. Guys would come through town and we
would do a weeks worth of sessions and then they would head back
out on the road. I really enjoyed that period of time.
Jeb: What are you currently working on?
Bryan: A friend of mine, Steven Dees, is a producer and he
plays with Hall & Oates. He has played with Ian Hunter and
several other bands over the years. He is producing a wonderful
keyboard player from Memphis named Victor Wainwright. We are
finishing up his third album. We have finished mixing it and we
are now mastering it.
Jeb: What is it about the blues?
Bryan: My early interest in guitar came from the British
Invasion bands like Peter Green and Eric Clapton. There were a
lot of great electric blues guitar players coming from across
the pond. When I started to research it I found out that they
had been listening to American blues artists that none of us
kids in America even knew existed. I started listening to Otis
Rush, BB King and Albert King. I dug back into the pasts and
found out about all these blues players and I started listening
to them.
Jeb: Did you go clear back to Robert Johnson and did you
study the Chicago blues and how they differed from the Delta
blues?
Bryan: I went in-depth with it all the way back to Robert
Johnson. I learned about all the genres of it. When I started
working with Lonesome Dave, in Foghat, I learned a lot about the
blues because he was a true blues aficionado. He collected old
78 records and he knew everything about the blues. We would
spend hours on the tour bus talking about it. We would listen to
his record collection, which contained just about every blues
album that had ever been recorded. He was an encyclopedia of the
blues and that peaked my interest.
At the time I was at Kingsnake, we delved into Southeastern
blues, which is what Bob liked to produce. We listened to all
these great guys like Lazy Lester, Lonesome Sundown, Lonesome
Slim and all the guys from the Louisiana, Baton Rouge era.
Jeb: It is a travesty what happened to blues players,
business wise.
Bryan: That is true but it is not unlike what happened to a
lot of early rock bands. It is like Hunter S. Thompson said,
“The music industry is full of sharks and rats but it also has a
dark side.” I am misquoting him but the original quote is so
true.
A lot of the British Invasion guys brought them back into the
limelight again and made it so they could make some money.
Albert King was opening up at the Fillmore East with all kinds
of rock bands. Johnny Winter helped bring Muddy Waters to the
forefront in the ‘70’s. They finally, in later parts of their
life, got some recognition and made some money. In the early
years they were playing the Chitlin Circuit and playing for
daily money to survive.
Jeb: Kenny Wayne Shepherd did an amazing documentary on blues
players.
Bryan: My guitar tech works with Kenny Wayne quite a bit and
Hubert Sumlin was out with him. He was in poor heath and Kenny
was trying to keep him healthy and get him out there. Kenny
Wayne really respects all the old guys and the traditions, which
come with them.
Another guy who was amazing was Gary Moore. He came from Thin
Lizzy and he was a great rock guitarist but he was an amazing
blues player. Joe Bonamassa kind of reminds me of Gary, the way
he plays the electric blues.
Jeb: It must be a real treat for you to make a blues album
with Foghat.
Bryan: It is something that was always on the minds of the
band, going clear back to when I worked with Dave in the early
1990’s. There were always a couple of blues covers on every
Foghat record but this time we did one specifically aimed at the
blues. It was really something that Dave wanted to do. We each
picked three songs apiece and went into the studio. We could
have made a triple album with all the songs we wanted to do. We
rocked them up a little bit and we played them the way we played
them. It was an easy album to make. We recorded them in our band
house in Florida. We would barbeque and record and then drink
some wine and record. It was a very comfortable record to make.
Over the years I have learned that the records that are fun to
make seem to end up better than the ones you slave over.
Jeb: Roger called the house Boogie Motel South. He said you
would have the guitar strapped on while you were trying to run
the board.
Bryan: I’m used to doing that. I would be in the control room
and I would hit record and wave for everyone to begin and I
would play guitar on my lap. When it was all over I would reach
over and hit stop.
Some of my favorite solos are at the end of songs. We were
recording one song and we were at the end and five minutes later
we are still playing. Suddenly, a drumstick comes flying past my
head and Roger looks at me and I go, “Okay, that’s a take.”
Jeb: If you were so into the blues then how did you end up
breaking into the business with a disco band?
Bryan: We were actually a rock band first. “Play That Funky
Music” is actually a very autobiographical song. We were playing
Led Zeppelin and Robin Trower in the clubs at the time when The
Bee Gees and KC and the Sunshine Band were coming out. We were
playing in these bigs clubs that had a thousand people and we
were rocking out while all these people were just looking at us.
We would take a break and the deejay would come on and play all
these new dance songs and the dance floor would immediately be
packed. Literally, one guy actually came up to us and said, “You
better start paying some funky music, white boy.” We were still
a covers band so we went out and learned the hits of the day.
We actually recorded that album with our own money on our own
time. We just wanted to up our stock in the local market so we
could go from five hundred bucks a night to eight hundred bucks
a night. It was one of those things where a record executive
heard it while we were in the studio and we went from the bars
to the arenas in about six weeks time.
Jeb: That made it to # 1. Are you surprised that song has had
such staying power?
Bryan: It was a surprise to me that it ever was a hit. I
remember hearing it on the radio for the first time and I
completely went nuts. I had no expectation that it would break
so fast. We were on a small record label that was made up of a
couple of guys in Cleveland. They had an independent guy whose
job it was to call up radio stations. We owe the song breaking
to them as they did all the work. When it started going it
really went fast and we were shocked. It was a really fun song
to play. We would play that song in the clubs right after we
wrote it and even guys who didn’t like to dance were dancing.
Jeb: You wrote the guitar riff.
Bryan: I have played a million notes in my life but those are
the seven notes that people will remember. I have heard so many
different versions of it… George Michaels did it and the band
Extreme rocked it up a bit. I have heard marching bands do it. I
have heard it done in airport lounges. A lot of bands play it to
this day, as it is a great club song. To have it still be so
popular is just crazy. My kids just love it.
Jeb: You met Lonesome Dave before you were in Foghat.
Bryan: I had a band called Blue House that had a house gig in
Orlando. Pat Travers is a good friend of mine – he is a great
guitarist and a wonderful guy. Dave had just moved back here
from London, where he had been on hiatus for a few years. He was
looking to get back into playing and Pat brought Dave to a gig.
We were playing all these old blues songs and Dave absolutely
loved the fact that we were playing all these obscure songs and
he sat in with us. We became friends after that. In a couple of
weeks he asked me if wanted to do some playing with him. We set
it up where my quartet would open a show and then Pat Travers
would play a few songs with us and then Dave would come out and
play with us. Eventually, Dave wanted to form his own band and I
jumped at the chance to do that.
Jeb: Were you involved when there were two Foghats touring?
Bryan: When I joined, I was in Lonesome Dave’s Foghat. Roger
had continued playing for years when Dave went back to England.
Technically, there was Lonesome Dave’s Foghat and Roger Earl’s
Foghat. Finally, the band reformed with all original members,
Dave, Roger, Rod Price and Tony Stevens. Rick Rubin was a huge
Foghat fan and he wanted the band back together so he could
record them. Unfortunately, he never got to because he had four
or five other projects going on. They did Return of the
Boogie Men and a live album as they couldn’t just sit around
and wait for Rick Rubin.
I went and joined Molly Hatchet at that time. Foghat played
with Molly Hatchet over in Europe and we became friends. Hatchet
needed another guitar player so I did that for seven or eight
years. Dave became ill and Foghat had to come off the road for a
year. When Dave went into remission and wanted to get back to
playing, Rod didn’t want to tour anymore as he had gotten into
teaching. Dave called me up and I left Molly Hatchet and played
with Dave in 1999, up until his death in 2000.
Jeb: Roger has told me that Dave wanted you back in the band.
Bryan: We would talk all the time when I was in Molly
Hatchet. When Dave got sick I would advise him on the American
health care system as I had a daughter who had cystic fibrosis.
Dave was English so he needed some help with our system. I think
he always felt bad that he had to fire me when the original guys
got back together. When he asked me back into Foghat it meant a
whole lot to me and I think it also meant a whole lot to him.
Jeb: How hard was it to learn the Foghat licks?
Bryan: Rod was a very different person to play like because
he had a very unique way of playing slide guitar. He was a
master of slide guitar. It really was a master class into his
style. I got the chance to play with him for about five months
when we had Lonesome Dave’s Foghat. Rod came out with us and we
played as a five piece. I got to know Rod and stand next to him
and watch him play. To this day I still put the records on and
listen to him play and make sure that I’m not getting too far
away from his primary parts. He was a one of a kind guitarist.
Jeb: You really go back and sharpen the blade to the original
tunes?
Bryan: When you play a song a lot then you have a tendency to
morph it into something else. That is not always a bad thing but
a lot of our Foghat fans come out to the show and want to hear
us play the songs correctly. It is the same in classical or jazz
or any other kind of music. People want to hear the signature
parts. Luckily, with Foghat, there is always room to improvise
and put your own stamp on it. You can get yourself in there but
you want to make sure that you play the parts properly.
Jeb: Were you a Foghat fan even before you met the guys?
Bryan: Wild Cherry used to play Foghat songs. Before Wild
Cherry, in some of my other bands, we played a lot of Savoy
Brown songs. Savoy Brown was one of the most influential British
Invasion bands for me. Kim Simmonds played some great riffs.
When we went on tour in 1976 with Wild Cherry, it was a huge
year for Foghat because “Slow Ride” came out. “Play That Funky
Music” was also out then. I did a lot of fabulous tours with R&B
bands like Earth, Wind & Fire, Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder
but I always wanted to be a rocker. I was very glad to make the
change.
Jeb: I love Foghat Liveand I consider it to be
one of the best live albums ever. You were on Foghat Live II
and I am not blowing smoke up your ass but it is just as good.
Bryan: It meant a lot for us to do it. When you’re a
replacement player in a band then it can be tough. We wanted to
show people that we could still play and do justice to the
material. I appreciate that comment. We really wanted to show
people what we are all about live and we are very glad that it
turned out well.
Jeb: “California Blues” going into “I Just Wanna Make Love to
You” is some of the best rockin’ blues to be recorded in years.
Everyone I play that for just is blown away.
Bryan: It has sort of has taken on a life of it’s own. It
started out a twenty second intro but now it can go on twenty
minutes if we don’t watch it. We always try to play it when we
headline and have time to do it. It is very improvisational and
Charlie [Huhn] and I get to really stretch out. There are a lot
of cues in that song but there is a lot of just going back and
forth between him and I.
Jeb: Roger Earl has been through hell and back and he is
still playing drums and smiling ear-to-ear the entire time he is
on stage.
Bryan: Roger has done what he loved his entire life and that
makes him one of the most successful people I have ever met. He
is the heart and soul of this band and we couldn’t do it without
him. He has always carried it on and I am proud to be in a band
with him. He is a great drummer but he is also a great person.
Jeb: Charlie played with Nugent back in the day and then with
Humble Pie but he is at his best with Foghat.
Bryan: He absolutely is. We were very nearly not going to do
anything because we couldn’t find anyone to replace Dave after
he died. Dave knew of Charlie and Roger remembered that. They
had seen him in Humble Pie. Charlie was really the only person
we auditioned. We talked to him and went to New York and had a
rehearsal and we had an instant chemistry. He could cover the
material and he had that same rock n’ roll attitude without
being a copycat of Dave’s. He could also rock out on guitar. We
really hit it off. He was the last piece of the puzzle and he
got us back on the road.
Jeb: I have seen Foghat a lot over the years. I even have my
own Foghat laminate allowing me to attend any gig I want to
attend. I have never seen a bad Foghat show. Do you ever have a
bad gig?
Bryan: Well, I guess that is a matter of scale. Any day you
get paid to play is a good day. Sometimes you may get into a
situation where the equipment they supply you with is not right
and that makes the show suffer. Very rarely is it an internal
thing. We are always ready to go. Sometimes you may have been
traveling fourteen hours and you are not feeling well and you’re
not on your “A” game. Other than that we are pretty much on. I
am just thankful to be in this band and to be able to do it
every night.
Jeb: You have been through some very hard times. You
mentioned early about your daughter who had cystic fibrosis. You
recently lost her but you still have this awesome personality.
How do you do it?
Bryan: My daughter faced an 18 year struggle with a horrible
disease and she never complained a day of her life. All I have
to do is think of that and all the other problems become
extremely trivial. She was always laughing and was a very
positive person. For the last twenty years she has been my
inspiration. There is not too much point in being a negative
person. Where does that go? Pretty much nowhere.
I really enjoy playing. I am not as rich as I would like to
be but I am rich in my spirit. I love what I do. Someone asked
me if I was ever going to retire. I replied, “What would I do?
Get together with my friends and play guitar?” Why bother
retiring. Foghat’s schedule is filling up again. We’re also
going to work on a DVD this year and start writing songs for
another CD.
Jeb: New music you say?
Bryan: We have a lot of stuff in the can and we are looking
forward to digging into it. We put out the Official Bootleg
which was just some clips of different gigs. We really want to
do a Hi Def recording that captures our live performance.
Jeb: Last one: What is the most fun Foghat song to play live?
Bryan: At the moment I would have to say “Terraplane Blues.”
It is a heavy slow blues written by Robert Johnson. We have
extended it out and it is my personal favorite right now. The
“California Blues” jam is another one that is really fun for me.
Charlie and I get to go and hang out at the end of the stage and
play guitar hero.