The Whitesnake Quoth “Forevermore!” An Interview with
Doug Aldrich
By Jeb Wright
Live Photo by Michael Wiersch
Studio Photo by John Harrell
Doug Aldrich first came to prominence as a member of DIO
after years of slogging it out with bands including House of
Lords and Hurricane. In 2002, he left Ronnie’s band to become
one of the lead guitar players for Whitesnake. Over the years,
Snake charmer and bandleader, David Coverdale, grew fond of the
wickedly talented muse. Aldrich has since been dubbed The
Musical Director of Whitesnake. In fact, Aldrich co-wrote
every song on the band’s new album, Forevermore, with his
boss, Coverdale. The result is the best Whitesnake album since
the classic, self-titled album released in 1987.
With songs like “Love Will Set You Free,” “I Need You (Shine
A Light)” and the very British sounding “Fare Thee Well”
Whitesnake has proved that classic rock not be classic in age to
be great. The new tunes are fresh, sound sonically amazing and
will have anyone who loved the 80’s hard rock smiling ear-to-ear
and playing this one over and over again. Aldrich, along with
fellow axe-slinger Reb Beach, bring excitement and maximum
riffage and soloing to the record. Coverdale is in fine voice as
well.
In the interview that follows, Doug and I discuss the making
of the new album, Coverdale’s voice and the songwriting process
behind the new album. We also talk about Jeff Beck, the passing
of Ronnie James Dio and the time Doug auditioned for Kiss when
he was eighteen years old. Suffice it to say that Whitesnake is
back. Tawny has been replaced by a smoking pole dancer in the
band’s newest video, “Love Will Set You Free” making one wonder
if Rolls Royce’s might just be overrated. Oh to be that pole…
Jeb: You have to be very happy with the results of the new
Whitesnake album, Forevermore . I really like this album
and since I got the promotional copy I have not been able to
stop playing it.
Doug: Coming from you, that really means a lot. We had a
great time making this record. It is a very simple process.
There is not a lot of drama; it is very natural and organic. We
just started with one song and if we got stuck, then we just
moved on. When we came back to it, then we had a fresh
perspective. I think this is a very diverse album.
Jeb: “Love Will Set You Free” is a great Whitesnake song.
There is a classic sound here. Do you try to write in the style
of Whitesnake or is it a coincidence?
Doug: It is not a coincidence, as David Coverdale has
influenced me since I was thirteen-years-old. One time my mom
dropped me off at my friend’s house, I remember it because I had
just gotten my first really good guitar, which was a Les Paul
Gold top; I had little Peavey amp. My friend and I spent the day
trying to figure out “Mistreated.” That is when I first heard
David. If somebody had said to me then, that I would be jamming
with him now, then I would have said they were crazy.
When you’re writing songs you can’t plan anything, really. If
you want to get the best out of yourself, then you just have to
let it flow. I will say that there are flavors of Whitesnake on
the album but there are other influences of both David’s and
mine. I can hear the Faces, Zeppelin, Thin Lizzy and the Allman
Brothers. David is a huge Allman Brothers fan and I think that
is one of the main places he picked up on the twin lead guitars.
When David split from Deep Purple, the most obvious thing for
him to do would have been to do another band just like Deep
Purple. David took a bold step and went more towards the blues
and made something new. Through the years, there were bands like
the Allmans, Slade and Thin Lizzy that all had that groove to
them; almost like an Ian Paice kind of groove. There are tips of
the hat to all of those bands on the new record.
Jeb: I love your playing. This album has kept my interest. I
can‘t get enough of “Love Will Set You Free.”
Doug: Before David put any lyrics to that song, he would say,
“I really like that Stevie Wonder sounding song.” Stevie used to
play the clavinet with that style of sixteenth notes. Over the
past five or ten years, I have really learned that you can’t
force yourself to write a certain way. You just can’t go into
the studio and say, “I am going to write a new ‘Here I Go
Again.’” It has to actually come together in an organic way and
you have to just let it flow.
Jeb: My other favorite on the album is “Fare Thee Well.” It is
acoustic and it is not a typical Whitesnake sounding song.
Doug: David is very attached to that song, it means a lot to
him. I don’t even know what it is he is talking about; there is
a lot of speculation about the meaning of that song. After
hearing that song over 1000 times last year, when we were
writing it and working on it, he was still totally entranced
with it. I am going to tell him you like it. I was worried it
might be too outside of the boundaries but it really came
together well.
Jeb: “I Need You (Shine a Light)” should be a hit single.
Doug: We all thought that was going to be the single. When we
were talking about what song we should shoot for a video, I told
them the obvious choice was “I Need You (Shine a Light).” It is
simple and catchy. We all planned on that song being the one. We
sent our top three choices to Frontiers Records and they chose
“Love Will Set You Free.”
I agree with you, that it is a cool song. It has that Motown
influence that Whitesnake has always had. David is a huge Motown
guy. I just was banging around on the guitar, doing kind of that
“Shotgun” riff. I took it to David and he just sang something
amazing. I stopped and tried to get him to redo what he was
doing. We had actually been filming the session that day, so I
got a copy of the video and sent it to David and told him that
this was a rough idea, but it could really be something. It
worked out good.
Jeb: “My Evil Ways” is a “Turn it up to 11” song.
Doug: David and I would always talk about doing these crazy
boogie things and we would just jam together. David had a
brainstorm to write a song and put in a huge guitar battle. As
soon as we started doing this song he said, “This is the one
where we do the guitar battle.” That tune is just relentless. It
has a real throwback sound to it. We were in pre-production
jamming through that song, and our new drummer, Brian Tichy, was
working on it. I was still trying to get my parts down and he
was already experimenting with crazy beats. He really played
amazing on this song, as well as the entire album.
Jeb: The title track is a classic Whitesnake epic that comes
in over seven minutes long.
Doug: That song pretty much fell into place. A lot of times,
I would take an idea that David had, or I would just come up
with things myself, and take them to him. I didn’t want to go in
cold; I like to have my homework done. I had a concept for
something that started off really simple with an intimate,
acoustic sound. It could have gone a lot of different ways. It
could have gone soft to heavy, or it could have stayed acoustic
– we did a version like that as well, actually. We could have
just left an acoustic intro and then had the rest of the song be
heavy. I sat down with David to see what he thought of this
weird chord thing that I was doing. He sang the coolest melody
over what I was doing and I knew then, that no matter how it
ended up, it was going to be really cool. He really hit all the
sweet spots in the melody.
Jeb: Whitesnake has two amazing guitar players in Reb Beach
and Doug Aldrich.
Doug: Reb is an extremely talented musician. I think he went
to Berkeley College of Music. I think he was also into show
business as a kid. He is an extremely talented player.
Jeb: How do you decide who gets the solo?
Doug: It has gotten so much better. David and I write
everything and we make the demos. We take the demos to Reb and
ask him what he wants to play on. He gets involved with the
songs that he really feels good about. You could tell which ones
he liked because he would start making those faces and try to
get those crazy sounds. I wanted the process to be fun for him.
Reb is the type of guy that you don’t want to think too much;
you just want him to get in and play. I think Reb and I really
bonded making this record. There is still a competition. When we
get onstage, he is still going to be gunning for me and I’m
going to do whatever I have to do but it’s a good competition
now.
In the beginning, he liked the way he played, and I liked the
way I played, and we didn’t see eye-to-eye as much; there was
more of a hardcore competition. We have matured beyond that now.
I really look forward to seeing what different types of things
he is going to play.
David wanted us to do a harmony guitar section on “Love Will
Set You Free.” I did a lead and the harmony to it. I showed it
to Reb and he did it his way and it really sounded fresh. I went
back and learned it his way. In the past, I would not have been
interested in doing that. I am still learning what works and
what doesn’t work. I am learning how to appreciate things more.
I feel really blessed to be a guitar player. I used to read
articles by guys like George Lynch, or Zakk Wylde, and they
would talk about how much they still practiced. You really need
to do that because as soon as you think you have it all figured
out, then somebody comes along and smacks you down.
Jeb: Are you comfortable saying that you‘re one of the best
out there today?
Doug: Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck are still out there playing
their asses off; they are the greats. Eric Clapton is still
playing. We just lost Gary Moore, who was one of the best. Then
you have Michael Schenker and Uli Roth… these are all masters of
the guitar. I appreciate what you are saying but I am actually
not comfortable with compliments. I know there are certain
things I do well and I just try to do them to the best of my
ability.
I was working on a song with my buddy Derek Sherinian, who is
the keyboard player with Black Country Communion. At some point,
he is going to do another solo record. Derek is a crazy talented
musician. We banged out this song and he put it together and
sent it back to me. He came over and he was trying to get me to
play a part with him and I was like, “Dude, that is hard. I
can’t do it. I can fake it and do it my way but I can’t do it
like you do it.” He was fine with that but that just shows that
I have to do things my own way. When I do them that way then I
can hang in there.
Jeb: I know we have talked about Jeff Beck before. We share a
love of his playing. His version of “Somewhere Over the
Rainbow,” basically all on his whammy bar, is incredible.
Doug: I saw that. Jeff Beck is a freak of nature. A producer
I worked with told me a story about Jeff Beck once. One day, he
was doing production with Queen, and Brian May had that famous
guitar that he made himself. He told me that people were always
picking that guitar up and trying to play it, but the guitar was
always out of tune. He told me that you just couldn’t keep it in
tune, no matter what you did. He told me that Jeff Beck came in
and picked up that guitar and it sounded perfect. Jeff Beck is
just that type of natural player who can make any guitar sound
good.
Jeb: I think guys like Gary Moore, Jeff Beck, Jimi Hendrix
and Robin Trower controlled their sound with their ears and
fingertips, and not with gadgets and effects.
Doug: When I saw Gary Moore play, I knew that is how I wanted
to play. I wanted to attack each note just like that. Gary
didn’t fuck around; you could really feel what Gary was playing,
no matter what it was. I think Gary Moore was a really sensitive
person. You could tell that from the intensity that came out in
his music. His music came from his soul. We toured with Gary but
I was really shy back then so I never talked with him much. I
wish I would have.
Jeb: What is your take on David Coverdale’s intensity?
Doug: For me, honestly, I am not just saying this because I
work with him, when I first heard David Coverdale sing I knew
that was the type of voice I wanted in a singer. He has the
biggest voice and a giant tone. It is like Eddie Van Halen’s
Brown Sound on guitar, vocally—David is that special. Last tour,
we might have cancelled a couple of dates, but David’s voice is
back 100%.
You never really know what someone is like until you are in a
room working with him. Trying to capture David’s voice on one
little microphone is something that just can’t happen. I have
never said this before, but you can stick a microphone next to
an amp and you can get a sound of what is going on, but you
don’t quite get the total real sound. When you hear David
Coverdale sing in the studio, without a microphone, you realize
what a giant voice he has. Ronnie James Dio had a giant voice as
well.
Jeb: Paul Rodgers comes to mind as well.
Doug: Absolutely, Paul Rodgers is one of the best.
Jeb: You can make people sound anyway you want in the studio.
The new album shows he sounds great. There was a lot of talk
about him losing his voice. Is this album pure when it comes to
how David is sounding these days?
Doug: This album is classic Coverdale. This is the same way
David has sounded since Deep Purple. The one thing about
vocalists is that as you get older, the muscles in your throat
change, and there are going to be differences. David, to me, has
held on well. He is really close to having the same tone that he
had in early Whitesnake. He sounds great on this album and that
is how he sounds in concert.
Jeb: Whitesnake has had Mickey Moody, Bernie Marsden, Steve
Via, Adrian Vandenberg, John Sykes, Reb Beach… it’s a hell of a
boys club for guitar players. You are in that club. In fact, you
co-wrote the songs and you are listed as Whitesnake’s Musical
Director.
Doug: That sounds so proper. It is not like when I do a
guitar clinic I am going to be giving out flu shots or
something. I am The Director of Notes [laughing]. It’s
really not that organized. I think my background is similar to a
lot of the guys David has worked with. I love the old Whitesnake
guys like Bernie Marsden and Mickey Moody. I have been trying to
bring some of that back into the band and I think David digs
that. I have a lot of respect for John Sykes. Adrian Vandenberg
is amazing as well and you can’t leave him out. There is a
common thread throughout my entire background that runs deep
with these players.
I think David can tell that I have no agenda. I just want to
write things that inspire him to get excited about playing
music. A lot of guys rest on their laurels but David is the type
of guy who texts you at 5:30 in the morning saying, “Put on a
pot of tea. I want to sing right now.” I think that is so cool.
David is also very open to songwriting and will listen to any
idea. When he sits down with me, I have no inhibitions,
whatsoever. If I said, “David, I want to do a song with
accordion, kazoo and a singing cat in the background,” he would
check it out and see where it goes. That is a great musical
partner to hang with, as there are no rules.
Jeb: Is there any chance that you will do an instrumental
guitar album.
Doug: I have done a couple.
Jeb: That was way back.
Doug: There is a possibility but I am so busy. I have been
24/7 with Whitesnake over the last year while we have been in a
creative period. I have been very focused on keeping the
creative juices flowing with the new album. If inspiration hits
while I am in bed, then I have to get up and go into the studio
and put it down, or play it into my phone, or whatever. Then,
the next day, I have to get up and start banging away on it and
find out what direction it will go.
There is always an odd session, here or there, like I did
with Derek Sherinian, but right now its all Whitesnake. We’re
going to be very busy touring this year. We are really excited
about this version of the band. I think this is the best version
of Whitesnake that I have played with.
Jeb: I want to go way back in your history. You almost
replaced Ace Frehley in Kiss.
Doug: I forget what happened to Ace but he was out of the
band. Ace is badass, as he has been a rock star forever. Anyway,
I went to the studio and I played over a couple of tracks that
they were working on. I thought that Kiss might be great
opportunity for me. I jammed with them a couple of times and it
was beyond putting into words. I was a kid; I was eighteen. In
my head, I was probably fifteen. At this time, you have to
remember that no one had seen them without makeup on, so I
wasn’t very comfortable looking at them. It was wild. I remember
walking into the studio and seeing these stacks of Marshalls on
stage and that was my backline. They told me I could play as
loud as I wanted to play. They actually called me back for a
third time. It’s a long story, but basically they knew I was too
young, and that I had a lot more to learn before I could be in
the position to be in that sort of thing. Vinnie Vincent got the
job.
Jeb: I have heard you and Gene are still friends.
Doug: We are now. That was the time for me when I decided to
get serious. I thought to myself that if they had seen something
in me then I had better get serious as maybe I could do
something one day. I am still trying to get it together now. It
made me work hard.
Here is a funny story: Gene had given me his phone number
when I was auditioning for Kiss. It was his home phone. When
Kiss came to town, I told a bunch of my buddies that I would
call up Gene and get us backstage passes. I called Gene’s house
and there was a party going on. You could hear glasses and there
were people screaming and stuff. Finally, they get Gene on the
phone and I go, “Hey Gene, this is Doug Aldrich.” He said,
“Who?” He basically said not to call him again. I was like, “Oh
man, how humiliating.” A few years later, we did a few gigs with
Kiss in Europe and New Zealand. We have since become friends. He
is a legend.
Jeb: I will put you on the spot. I did an interview with
Keith Olsen, the producer for both Slide It In and
Whitesnake. Keith and I did not agree on which album was the
best. I thought I would ask you as you play these songs every
night.
Doug: As far as the songs go, Slide It In was a record
that my friends and I really got into. For me, Slide It In
is the better album. Whitesnake was the big album and
those songs are really badass. We still play them and they go
over great. They are some of the all-time great rock songs, so
you can’t debate that. For my personal taste, however, Slide
It In is the one.
Jeb: Before we go, I have to ask you about Ronnie James Dio.
He was instrumental in your career when he hired you to be in
his band. Tell me your thoughts on losing Ronnie.
Doug: I saw Heaven and Hell dates for 2010 and I
thought he must be doing better—that is what made it so hard. I
was in touch with Ronnie more about sports than music. He loved
the New York Giants. It was football season when he got sick. He
had asked me to do a tour at the end of 2009. I told them that
if he asked David, and that if he was all right with it, then I
would be glad to do it.
When he got sick, I tried to talk to him about fun things,
like football and stuff, instead of burdening him with questions
about his health. I might just ask how he was doing and he would
go, “This thing is a real pain in the ass but I am doing
better.” I got a text when I was out of the country telling me
that he was really sick and I called Wendy [Dio] right away and
she told me that he was not going to make it. I said, “I am
coming back home tomorrow. Do you think he will hang in there
that long?” She said, “Definitely, he wants to see you but you
need to get here.” I was worried about it so I told my wife to
get the baby and go see Ronnie. I’m so grateful I did that. She
told him that we loved him and he blinked to her so we know he
understood. I didn’t get to say goodbye, as he passed away
before I could get there.
It was a huge loss for Metal. I feel lucky to have known him
and spend time with him, in addition to playing music with him.
One time, we went to a sports bar down the street because I
wanted to watch an Eagles game. Ronnie went with me to support
me. A longtime mate of his named Willie joined us and there was
this big guy who was some sort of actor, and he was for the
other team and he just would not let up on me. He kept making
all these rude comments and Ronnie finally got pissed off.
Ronnie jumped up and went nose-to-nose with this big guy. I was
like, “Holy shit.” We all got chucked out of the place, but how
cool is that, Ronnie stuck up for me.