Queensryche is not your typical heavy metal band. In some
ways, that moniker does not truly fit them. Some call them
progressive metal, others hard rock and some just plain old rock
n’ roll. This difficulty in describing the band has both helped
and hurt them over the years. It has helped them to remain
working, interesting and relevant. It has hurt them because
their main fan base has been metal fans, and, lets face it, the
most success they had was with albums like Operation
Mindcrime. Queensryche has taken the tag that used to be
used to describe Blue Oyster Cult, “The Thinking Man’s Heavy
Metal Band,” to a new level. Now, they may be stretching some of
their hardcore fans patience to the limit with a daring new
album that barely sounds like classic QR.
Geoff Take explains the reason the band changes musical
direction in the interview below. He also discusses why they do
what they do and how album sales are secondary to being a
musician. A true artist, Tate understands that Dedicated to
Chaos is not your Mother’s Queensryche. It is something new,
out of the ordinary and kinda funky. That said, it works…just
don’t expect “Revolution Calling.”
Jeb: Dedicated To Chaos is a very unique album. It is
not what one would expect from your band. You have a ton of
rhythm and not much hard stuff. There are a lot of styles. I
hear Queensryche, U2 and even Glenn Hughes.
Geoff: That funky stuff is our bass player, Eddie Jackson. He
likes real funky stuff.
Jeb: Has anyone been trying to find the concept behind the
album?
Geoff: [laughter] We really made a conscience decision to go
away from the concept album this time. We had done two concept
albums, back to back. We just wanted to make this a collection
of songs.
Jeb: Stylistically, this is a hard one to discuss if one has
not heard the music. It is not a funk album, yet it is funky. It
is not a rock album, but at times it rocks. Was this a
conscience choice to take a left turn from what people expect
from Queensryche?
Geoff: Before each record, we all sit down to discuss what we
want to achieve. These conversations can go on for days and days
and days. Sometimes, they get pretty intense. Everybody goes
away from the meeting and they come back with what their version
is for what we decided.
We wanted to steer clear of what we have done in the past. We
wanted to break new ground, musically. We wanted to approach
what we have done with our instruments differently. We wanted to
focus on our rhythm section, the bass and drums, and use that as
a bed track to build off of.
In the past, we would build off of a vocal or a guitar riff.
We really wanted to steer clear of that. We wanted to give
ourselves something different to do. We wanted a new approach.
Our drummer, Scott Rockenfield, really got into the idea. He
set up his drums completely different than he has ever set them
up before in order to force himself to play differently. That
was a real challenge for him. I did sort of the same thing by
moving my studio to a different location and having a different
atmosphere to write in. It was just another one of our
experiments where we tried to push ourselves and move in another
musical direction.
Jeb: I am going to make a comparison. Tribe was an
experiment. It did not work at all. This album seems like you
are more confident than you were then.
Geoff: It was different, then, primarily because Chris [DeGarmo]
was back to record some guitar parts but he wasn’t really back
in the band. It was a confusing time.
Chris was one of the main songwriters in the band. He worked
with everybody in the band, individually, and he was very
organized in his approach. Without him, we had to learn how to
operate. We are a different band now. The band has changed.
People will realize that we have taken a different approach to
things on this album. That may be what you are hearing.
Jeb: I like the fact that you have been around for decades
but you are still very interested in doing things differently,
trying new things and experimenting.
Geoff: What brought Queensryche together, in the first place,
was our love of music. We all came from musical backgrounds and
we all had a lot of different musical styles that we
appreciated. If you had looked at our record collections then
you would have seen that we probably owned every record that was
ever made. We had thousands and thousands of records. The first
time we ever met to discuss things we brought records in with us
to reference things. We were referencing everything from Blue
Cheer to Black Sabbath to Liberace to John Coltrane; we had it
all in there. We all fell in love with each other’s taste in
music. That is what really has held us together all of these
years. The pure joy of creating music is what drives the band.
We couldn’t stay together if we played the same style and just
regurgitated our greatest hits and all that stuff. I don’t think
that would be very satisfying, creatively.
Jeb: You are still on a label and making CDs. What do you
think the future will hold?
Geoff: This is a very exciting time, as everything is filled
with change and transition. I am not just talking about the
music business. Industry to politics to business, we are in a
global transition. On one hand, it is frightening and scary
because we have to figure out how to make it work. On the other
hand, it is exciting and challenging. The world is your oyster
now as nothing is defined. I think you can reinvent yourself and
be anything you want to be and not have to adhere to the old
ways of doing things, which in our case was the record industry
way.
They put you in a box and called you a “genre” in order to
market and sell you. You can market and sell yourself now. The
idea of genres is changing. I think the end of all record
companies will come in a few years. They just can’t make money.
It will be a good thing for the artist, because we can reinvent
ourselves, but it will be a bad thing because it will put a lot
of people out of work.
Jeb: Do you find Loud and Proud is a good label to be with? I
think they do some cool things and have the right idea about
bands like Queensryche in today’s marketplace.
Geoff: We went with them because of Tom [Lipsky]. We have
known him for years. We were with him at Sanctuary. Tom said he
could do this and that and then he waved a lot of money in front
of us – that never hurts.
Jeb: On your UK tour can people really buy a bunk and travel
with the band?
Geoff: We are offering to let people buy a bunk on the tour
bus and go out on the road with us. We’ve done that before. We
had six people out with us the tour before last. We had a great
time; the people are fun. It really makes a life memory for
them. A lot of that stuff comes from Susan [Tate], our manager.
She dreams it up and works it all out with the label and makes
it happen.
Jeb: If you didn’t have the work ethic that you have, then
you would probably have hung it up by now.
Geoff: That is probably true. All of us in the band are
pretty hard workers. I have always been that way. One of the
things that attracted me to the guys in the band, way back when,
was the strong work ethic everybody had. We all were willing to
roll our sleeves up and do what it took to market the band.
Jeb: Kelly Gray produced the album in your hometown of
Seattle.
Geoff: Kelly has been a friend of everybody in the band for
years. Scott went to school with Kelly. I was in a band with
Kelly before Queensryche. He has done a couple of albums with us
and we really love working with him. He takes things very
seriously and he knows everybody in the band. He has lived at my
house before and I have lived at his house. We’re old friends.
Jeb: Being friends with you guys is he still able to put the
producer’s hat on and say, “Hold it, guys. That’s not right.”
Geoff: He is a man of very strong beliefs and he articulates
them very well. If he believes in something then he is not going
to hold back.
Jeb: You also come across that way. You are very articulate
and intelligent. Was compromise easy for you?
Geoff: I have always been into group collaborations. I like
hearing different ideas. Usually, a group idea is stronger than
an individual idea. I have learned to trust that when working
with everybody. You learn what everybody in the bands likes, and
what they don’t like, and what they can, and can’t do.
Jeb: You are on the Epitaph tour with Judas Priest.
Geoff: I am sad that Priest is going to quit. They’re a very
creative band and I like a lot of what they do. We are very
honored that they asked us to tour with them.
Jeb: When you get back to the States, and you’re headlining,
what can people expect from a Queensryche show?
Geoff: Our 30 year anniversary is here. We are going to do a
retrospective and play songs from every album we have ever done.
We have a really cool visual show that looks back at where we
have been, where we are at now, and where we are going. The band
is going to be able to play a lot of different music so it
should be enjoyable. We are going clear back to the EP days.
Jeb: The bad news will be that this is not a cabaret so there
will be no boobs on stage.
Geoff: [laughter] That is unfortunate.
Jeb: Your sales are good for today’s age. Do you ever worry
about album sales?
Geoff: I don’t really think in terms of numbers. I’m not a
math guy; I’m a musician. Record sales have dried up for
everyone. I remember days where if you didn’t sell a million
records, then you were a failure. I have now seen record company
guys jumping up and down and high-fiving each other if they sell
2,000 records. It’s kind of a weird thing to think about. The
whole industry is going to fold and there will no record sales.
There will be some type of new technology out there that will
come about; we just don’t know what it is yet.
Jeb: Last one: Priest is slowing down, so Halford will have
some time. Maiden is also not as busy, so Dickinson will be
around. Maybe this is the time to form the side project that has
been rumored about for all these years – The Three Tremors.
Geoff: [laughter] Maybe it will finally be time to launch
that project. The Three Tremors comes up in almost every
interview I do. I find that amazing.