NEVER LOOKIN' BACK: AN INTERVIEW WITH KENNY WAYNE SHEPHERD
By Jeb Wright
For twenty years Kenny Wayne Shepherd has been
stepping up the ladder, always trying to find new ways
to express his musical vision. At times he is genius, as
seen in his Ten Days Out documentary where he sought out
old blues players and recorded music with them. Other
times, he has struggled, as seen by his uncomfortable
attempt at a mainstream rock album. Now, he is back
doing what is most dear to his heart, playing his own
brand of rocking blues that his fans have come to love.
The new album, released on Loud and Proud Records, is
titled How I Go and the name says all one needs
to know. This is a return to the style of music
Shepherd’s fans want him to play, while at the same time
a step forward into much more mature songwriting.
Shepherd is no longer that wide-eyed, hot- shot young
guitar hero. He is a father of three who has brought
himself up in the limelight and even conquered a
drinking problem at a young age. He is a student of
Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jimi Hendrix, yet prides himself
on keeping his music real. He is not afraid to trot out
an influence and acknowledge those who came before him.
Yet it is important to him to keep moving forward,
putting his own stamp on things.
In the interview that follows Kenny opens up about
who he is, what he has done in the past, and where he is
going in the future.
Jeb: Before we even start, I have to tell you I have
been listening to your music since you first came out.
The first time I saw you live was in a club in Wichita,
Kansas when you had that long straight hair and not a
wrinkle on your face.
Kenny: I remember playing in that place in Wichita
because there was a dude, after the show that tried to
steal one of my guitars. We caught him, and he got a
nice little felony to face after that, but it all turned
out all right.
Jeb: I want to talk about the new album. You have
done many things over the years. You did a rock album,
you did a traditional blues thing with your documentary
and you put out your first live album. I want to know if
the title to this album is you sending a message to your
fans that you are back doing what you do best.
Kenny: Absolutely, the name of the record is How I
Go. It’s just another way of saying how we do
things, this is how we roll and this is what we love to
do. I think the music is a very good example of that.
Jeb: I like the album because it is a culmination of
everything that you’ve done up to this point.
Kenny: To me, every album that we do is a look at a
moment in time of where we are at. This album represents
a lot of growth and everything I’ve learned over the
last twenty years, since I’ve been recording and
performing. I have grown as an artist, a musician, and
as a writer. This is a great example of who I am at this
point of my career, and who I am as an artist.
Jeb: You’ve been making more babies than you have
albums over the last few years. That has to affect how
much time and effort you can give your career.
Kenny: That is one of the reasons that this album
took as long as it did. In the meantime, we put out the
Ten Days Out blues documentary, and we put out
our very first live album, Live in Chicago.
I have had three kids in the last four years. If you
look at that, and factor in all the live shows that I
have done during that time, then you can see there was
not a lot of spare time. The process for this record
began three years ago, and we started recording this
album over a year and a half ago. We are very glad that
it is finally out there for the fans to get their hands
on. The fans have been hitting me up on Facebook and
Twitter, telling me that it was worth the wait. Some
people think that it is my best record to date. For me
to hear people tell me that after doing this for twenty
years, that I’m just now putting out my best work, is
great.
Jeb: This album has that element that makes you want
to go back and hear it over and over and you find
yourself putting it back in your CD player, or calling
it up on the iPod.
Kenny: I’ve always made records where my intention is
to have people listen to every song on the album. The
more that you listen to the record, then the more that
it grows on you, and the more familiar you become with
it and the more you want to listen to it. A lot of
people have said that about all of my records, over the
years. Sometimes on first listen, they dig it but the
more they listen, the more they fall in love with it. To
me, that is great because that means the music has
longevity; the more they listen to it, the longer they
are going to listen to it.
Jeb: You play many styles on this album, yet you’ve
been able to meld them altogether into a cohesive body
of work.
Kenny: You want the album to sound like an entire
body of work. You don’t want a bunch of songs that are
all coming out of left field and don’t fit together. I
write thirty or more songs for every record that I do.
When we go into the studio, and start recording, then an
album starts to take shape and it takes a certain
direction. The songs that fit into that direction start
to rise to the top. Song selection is one of the most
important things, and it also leads to some of the most
difficult decisions that you have to make. We had
several songs that didn’t make this record, even though
it was all great material. It ended up that we made the
right decisions because the album is very cohesive and
every song sounds like it belongs with the others. You
still get a lot of different textures, sounds and
grooves throughout the record.
Jeb: Did you lean on the producer, Jerry Harrison,
for that honest feedback to help make those tough
decisions?
Kenny: That’s what a producer is there for. Jerry is
really involved in every step of the process. He’s down
in the trenches every day. I really value his opinion
and his feedback. There are a lot of moments on this
record, and a lot of sounds on this record, that would
not be there if he had not been involved. He has a big
hand in this record.
Jeb: I hear a very slight difference in your guitar
tone on this record. What is it that I’m hearing?
Kenny: I try and do some different stuff on each
record. I used a few different amplifiers, some new
guitars and a few new effects this time out. I don’t
want everything to start to sound the same. I did have
some new toys to play with and I think we got some
pretty cool tones on this record.
Jeb: I have read a lot of interviews with you where
you’re asked about a lot of the songs on the album. I
have not heard anyone ask you about “Show Me The Way
Back Home.” I love that song and you have a very cool
guitar sound on that one.
Kenny: That’s a real interesting tone. On the rhythm
part, I’m using a custom made amplifier that Alexander
Dumble built for me. If you have never heard of him,
then you need to know that he is one of the greatest amp
builders, ever. I used his amp on that song. You get
this really interesting sound -- I don’t even know how
to describe that sound. You just get the wah-wah in the
right place, and roll the Tele knob back on the neck
pickup, and move the pickup selector back and forth. It
is really hard to recreate that song live. We worked it
up for the live set but we haven’t started playing it
yet. It is definitely one of the more challenging ones
to pull off live.
Jeb: Tell me about “Never Lookin' Back.” The opening
to that has a tip of the hat to Keith Richards.
Kenny: Absolutely, man. It has some Stones influence
in there and it has some ZZ Top in there. There is also
some SRV stuff going on. You can hear a lot of a
different influences of mine but you can also hear the
Kenny Wayne Shepherd Band, as well. It’s a fun song. It
is one of those songs where you want to drive down the
road and put the hammer down. I think it is also a great
track to start out the record.
Jeb: “Struts” shows you love all things Stevie Ray.
Was that intentional?
Kenny: Certainly. Just like you were talking about
with “Never Lookin' Back,” if you guys, who are
listening to the music, can hear it, then you know that
I can hear it.
Jeb: A lot of people, in recent interviews, keep
asking you if you are sick of people comparing you to
SRV. I hear it, of course, but I think you are way more
than a Stevie clone. You’re very talented and unique in
your own right.
Kenny: I have a lot of other influences besides
Stevie but it is a fact that without Stevie Ray Vaughan
there might not be a Kenny Wayne Shepherd. I don’t deny
that. I give him credit because he was my hero. He was
the greatest guitar player ever, in my opinion. He
inspired me to play guitar. Everybody has their big
influences. BB King was hugely influenced by T-Bone
Walker. When you listen to early BB King then you hear
tons of T-Bone Walker riffs that he’s playing. The thing
is, as you grow and evolve as an artist, then your music
grows and evolves. There are plenty of things that I’ve
done that I don’t think Stevie would have ever recorded.
You would never hear Stevie Ray Vaughan play, or record,
“Blue On Black” or “Slow Ride.” There are plenty of
songs that I’ve done where I have my own sound but
Stevie Ray Vaughan is always going to be a huge
influence on me and you’re always going to hear him in
my music. If you had to throw me into a category then I
would say that I’m more the middle ground between Stevie
and Jimi Hendrix. My music is a little more edgy and
rock than Stevie.
Jeb: You brought up Jimi so I have to bring up “The
Wire.” Damn, that guitar sound you have is freaking
awesome.
Kenny: That is one of the vintage, original Vox
pedals. That song is one of my favorites; it’s a rocking
tune. We had to make some tough decisions as to what to
keep on this record and I really fought for that song to
be on the record. I’m really glad it made it. Besides
the guitar and the wah-wah stuff you have to recognize
the drums. Chris Layton, who was in Stevie’s band, just
tears it up.
Jeb: You’ve played with Double Trouble a long time
now. Does it still seem special?
Kenny: It’s incredible. Those guys are, hands down,
the best rhythm section for the kind of music that I do.
Jeb: Did I hear Tony Franklin is now the bass player
in your touring band?
Kenny: Tony just joined the band on bass. Tony was in
The Firm with Paul Rodgers and he was in Blue Murder. He
has been in a lot of high profile bands over the years.
He plays a fretless bass, which is a really cool sound.
He’s a great guy and a great player. He is just a
tremendous addition to the band.
Jeb: You sing lead vocals on two songs on this album
and you sing a lot of tandem vocals. Are you making Noah
Hunt jealous?
Kenny: I have a lot more vocal responsibilities, even
when Noah is singing lead. I sing a lot of backgrounds
and I sing lead on two songs. It is cool with him. I
think it is the natural progression of this band. I’m
singing more but Noah is playing some rhythm guitar.
Noah has been a part of this band for fourteen years,
and I hope he is always a part of this band. There is
nothing to be worried about. We’re just trying some new
things, musically, and having a good time doing it.
Jeb: I was talking with Leslie West the other day. We
were talking about how he has always stayed under the
radar. He said it would have been much harder to do what
Kenny Wayne Shepherd did. You came out of the box huge
and had to grow up in the industry.
Kenny: Growing up as a public person, who does music
and is on the road, was great. Some people ask me if I
feel I missed part of my childhood. Man, I’ve got to do
things that most people can only dream about. I have no
regrets. I’ve always tried to keep somewhat of a low
profile. I appreciate the attention, and I appreciate
those who dig what I do, but I’m not one of those people
who wants to parade myself around in front of the media
and make a big spectacle of myself. I’m from Louisiana,
so I’m about family and keeping it real and that is what
I’ve tried to do over the course of my career.
Jeb: You’ve had great success and you’ve had some
hardships in your career. Do you feel all of that has
made you much more mature for someone your age compared
to someone who has just been in a band all of his life
without the great highs and lows?
Kenny: We could sit around and talk all day about
‘what if this’ or ‘what if that’ was different. The
bottom line is that I’ve had the life that I’ve had. I
have made it a point to try to grow from all of my
experiences in my life. I try to take the good with the
bad and come out the other side a better person. I’ve
had some really great experiences and I’ve had some
things that I’ve had to learn the hard way. Ultimately,
I’ve used all of that to try to better myself. I think
the end result is that I’ve become wiser. Would I be any
more wiser, or any less wiser, if I had led a different
life? Who knows? I am just grateful for the life that I
do have.
Jeb: You have the Beatles song “Yer Blues” on your
album. I have heard you’re going to play with Ringo on
his next album.
Kenny: I went to his house a couple of months ago and
played on a couple of tracks that are supposed to come
out on his next record. That was a whole lot of fun and
it was really a huge honor. I have a tremendous amount
of respect for him, both professionally and personally.
Jeb: Did you play him “Yer Blues?”
Kenny: No, he hasn’t heard it yet, but the next time
I see him, I’m going to give him a copy of it.
Jeb: My last comment goes back to the new album. You
seem to be getting better with age. When you look at
what you’ve already accomplished then that is one hell
of a freaking compliment.
Kenny: I appreciate that, man. That’s the goal, to
keep on getting better and to keep on working your way
up that ladder, one step at a time. As long as I’m doing
that, then I feel like I’m doing my job.