PURE DUMB LUCK: AN INTERVIEW WITH THE ICONIC LEMMY KILMISTER
By Jeb Wright
Lemmy is one of only a handful of people in the entertainment
industry recognizable by only one name, in fact most don’t even
know that he has a last one. Unlike Sting, Madonna and Prince, Lemmy never used his one word moniker as a marketing tool. There
was no yellow bee like sweater, no simulated sex on an alter and
no running around in a pair of golden underwear onstage. Nope,
for over thirty years Lemmy has worn a black cowboy hat, black
shirt and pants, boots, sported two large moles on his face, had
greasy looking unkempt shaggy hair and pounded the shit out of
his bass guitar.
As he gets older, he has reached retirement age in the United
States, he seems to be ignoring Neil Young’s advice to either
burn out or fade away. Lemmy is defying the odds just as he did
when he drove a van full of Jimi Hendrix’s gear across
England wearing kaleidoscope glasses on his face. He doesn’t
play by the rules, he doesn’t like rules and he doesn’t like the
people who make the rules. If you look up Sex, Drugs & Rock n’
Roll in the dictionary there is a picture of Lemmy. You can
learn all you want to about the man now as there is a new a
movie out simply titled, Lemmy. There is also a new
Motorhead album titled The World is Yours.
In this interview I chat with Lemmy about the movie, the
music and about topics as diverse as drugs, Joan Jett, stealing
from the poor and woman who are bastards. Once again, Lemmy
Kilmister has given Classic Rock Revisited an amazing chat that
promises to deliver big. We look forward to the next one as we
are sure we will meet up with Lemmy somewhere out there on the
road.
Jeb: It seems that every time we talk you are getting more
and more famous. Now you’re a movie star.
Lemmy: [laughter] It’s not that kind of movie.
Jeb: All joking aside, what was your first reaction when you
learned that they wanted to do this film about you?
Lemmy: I thought it was very flattering. It is quite amusing
because everyone says that I’m a nice guy. It is kind of painful
in the end. As long as you don’t believe it then you will be
alright.
Jeb: You really are getting more popular. Why do you think
that is?
Lemmy: It seems to be. It is good for the band too, you know.
It’s okay. It’s just that I am too old now to chase all the
woman involved; which just seems a shame. I think they did a
really good job with the film. It wasn’t too showbiz and it
wasn’t too ordinary. The guys who did the movie were all fans or
at least they were when they started it. I don’t know if they
still are now [laughter].
Jeb: You also have a new album titled The World is Yours.
This is a great album. You keep putting out genuine albums when
a lot of your contemporaries are doing nothing or at least
nothing worthwhile.
Lemmy: We know what we are doing by now. Christ, we should
know because we have had a long time to rehearse. There is no
filler on this album. We seem to make an album every eighteen
months or so and I think every band should do that. We’re not
writing Sargent Pepper every time; we are writing
straight ahead rock n’ roll, do you know what I mean?
Jeb: You are writing great lyrics. I have just as much fun
listening to the words on this album as I do the music. Do you
still make up the words on the spot?
Lemmy: I make them up on the spot but I have a pretty good
vocabulary. I can make up a good song and do it pretty quickly.
It helps a lot to have a good vocabulary when doing lyrics. The
days of ‘moon’ and ‘June’ are over.
Jeb: These lyrics are… what is the word I am looking for?
Lemmy: Vicious.
Jeb: That’s it.
Lemmy: When you complain for a long time and nothing ever
happens then you just have to complain more. I have no time for
governments. You can hear that in the lyrics. And everybody
these days is bitching about what bastards men are but woman are
just as big of bastards as men are. It is very equal.
Jeb: Not everyone is that honest. There is no bullshit.
Lemmy: I don’t like putting up with bullshit from anybody
else so why would I put up with a bunch of bullshit in my own
lyrics?
Jeb: For instance, Lem, you’re just not supposed to say that
woman are big bastards just like men.
Lemmy: Who said that? A woman, right? [much laughter]
Jeb: I see where you have a recipe in a new cookbook.
Lemmy: It is a fun recipe called Krakatoa Surprise. You cover
refried beans and flour in chocolate and then you cover it in
brandy and set it on fire. You eat it while it is still on fire…
SURPRISE.
Jeb: You are not outspoken but when people ask you something
you tell them the truth. I think people appreciate that.
Lemmy: I have done interviews in the past and they cut
everything out except for the outrageous line and then they take
it out of context. I think that is just about as dishonest as a
person giving a bad interview. I despise people like that; they
don’t get two tries. It’s all just sensation. It is always
bullshit. How many times can a rock star go over the top on
drugs? How many times can a rock star be unfaithful to his old
lady? It is really fucking boring and that is what they do over
and over and over. They just print the same shit.
Jeb: You’re not anti-drug but you are anti-heroin.
Lemmy: I hate that shit. It killed off a lot of my
generation. It killed off a lot of my friends. Now this
generation is getting killed off again. I can’t believe it. How
many dead bodies do we need to have piled up?
Jeb: We are starting to see that with Meth.
Lemmy: As far as I know methamphetamines never killed anyone.
Heroin will actually kill you. I never saw anybody die from
smoking dope, doing acid, doing cocaine or anything else. It is
always heroin. They all died on that.
Jeb: Did the music bring the drug culture or did the drug
culture bring the music?
Lemmy: It just all happened. Music had been going on a long
time before that. You have to remember that before rock n’ roll
there were a bunch of jazz musicians all doing heroin. That shit
has been around a long time. Every generation thinks they are
stronger than the generation before it. They think, “It can’t
happen to me.” In the past people have died making that same
mistake. Maybe you should take note. People lose their lives in
the drug wars and you don’t have to prove it to yourself because
others have proved it for you.
Jeb: At this stage of our life, looking back, was the drug
use a positive or negative experience?
Lemmy: It was both, you know. Eric Clapton wrote “Layla” when
he was coked out of his mind. Later on it nearly killed him.
You’ve got to try to figure out which is the bigger benefit and
which is the bigger loser. It nearly killed him; he was in a
very, very bad way for a long time but he came through it. Most
people don’t come through it because they don’t have the money
to buy the people to look after them. Most people die a
miserable and lonely death because they don't have the people to
nurse them and get them through it all.
Jeb: Why have you survived?
Lemmy: Pure dumb luck. Also, I never did heroin.
Jeb: I have always wanted to ask you this…. Lemmy, what is
the dumbest thing that you have ever done?
Lemmy: There are a lot of them, for sure. I climbed down the
outside of the Swiss Cottage Holiday Inn once just to surprise
one of my crew by getting on his balcony and knocking on his
window.
Jeb: You’re not a dumb guy either so I wonder what is the
best career move you’ve ever made.
Lemmy: I haven’t made many in my career; you can see that
just by looking back at it. It has been a series of disasters
ever since 1982. It really helps that I never wanted to do
anything else.
Jeb: Do you know what the odds are the Motorhead would still
be together after everything that you have been through in both
the industry and your personal life?
Lemmy: I should write a musical about it shouldn’t I?
Jeb: Lemmy on Broadway!
Lemmy: Yeah, yeah [laughter]. We could wear straw hats while
dancing down the road, you know.
Jeb: Legend holds that you woke up a guy out of a coma by
just talking to him.
Lemmy: That’s true. We sent in a tape. It became kind of a
fad in the late ‘70’s to try to help people wake up out of comas
by hearing things that they liked. A lot of kids were laying
around in comas due to accidents and things. I remember we sent
out about six tapes. We heard that we were this one kid’s
favorite band so we sent a tape that said, “Hey this is
Motorhead. It’s time to wake up.” We sent out tapes to the
others but they didn’t wake up. It was worth it just to have one
kid wake up. I got to meet him after he woke up.
Jeb: Last year a guy got killed after your show. How does
that affect you?
Lemmy: A kid got killed but it didn’t have anything to do
with us. It was a gang thing that happened in the parking lot
outside. One of the gang members set fire to his hair during the
show. One of the rival gang members met up with him outside in
the parking lot and killed him. It is a drag, really. You
remember it but shit man…what can I do?
Jeb: Your music is a release that is there to help people get
rid of those feelings and not to promote that shit.
Lemmy: That is how I feel. It really hits home with you that
it didn’t have any effect on these people. They were just as
intent on fucking killing each other as they were before they
came to the show. It was just fate, you know. I guess when
you’re young you have tunnel vision on that shit.
Jeb: Which was your favorite decade…the ‘60’s, the ‘70’s or
the 80’s?
Lemmy: Probably the ‘60’s because there were hardly any rules
and heroin hadn’t shown up so people hadn’t started dying. It
was incredibly upbeat and we almost did change the world. I
guess that was the best one…the ‘70’s were pretty good too. I
have been lucky to have been in the right place at the right
time.
Jeb: Did you ever get to meet any of the Beatles?
Lemmy: I shook hands with George and Ringo a couple of times
but I wouldn’t say they would ever remember me.
Jeb: Did the Beatles really influence Motorhead?
Lemmy: The Beatles had an influence on everybody. They
changed the way you looked at things. You have to realize what
an incredible explosion the Beatles were. You really had to be
there but I will try to tell you. They were the first band to
not have a lead singer in the band. They were the first band to
write their own songs in Britain because we always just covered
American songs before that. Everybody was singing at the same
time and the harmonies were great. The Beatles really turned the
whole thing on its head. Daily papers in England used to have an
entire page of the paper dedicated to what the Beatles had done
the day before. When George died the guards at Buckingham Palace
played a medley of George’s songs during the changing of the
guard; that sort of thing never happens.
Jeb: Motorhead were the support act for Ozzy back on the
Blizzard of Oz tour. I am a huge fan of Randy Rhoads. What was
he really like?
Lemmy: He was really a good guy. I never could get over how
incredibly little he was. He was little like Ronnie James Dio,
they were little guys but they had a lot of heart. You would
never believe that voice came out of Ronnie James’s body. It was
the same way with Randy because he had small hands because he
was a little fellow. Boy, could he play guitar. He became an
even better guitar player after he died. It is a well-known
mystery that guitar players suddenly get better once they are
dead. Buddy Holly was the first. Stevie Ray Vaughan is known by
a lot more people than had ever heard of him when he was alive.
Jeb: I am also a fan of Joan Jett and Lita Ford. Tell me
about the early days of the Runaways.
Lemmy: The first time the Runaways played in Britain at the
Roundhouse, Joan Jett wore my bullet belt onstage. They were the
first big all girl band. Girlschool came along about two years
after them. The Runaways were really the first all-girl band to
really strut their stuff and say, “Fuck you.” “Cherry Bomb” was
the best song for a girl band to sing. It was just outrageous at
the time. There were American families sitting on the sofa
watching television going, “Fuck me.” It was great fun. I loved
Cherie Currie and she really upset a lot of middle aged men back
then. I saw her the other day and she is doing great. You know
she is a twin don’t you? She has a twin sister and they are
absolutely identical.
Jeb: Girlschool never got much respect in America.
Lemmy: They were great. They couldn’t afford to tour over
here. If I hadn’t been living here do you think we would have
gotten a Grammy? No chance.
Jeb: I bet there are still people on the Grammy committee
that can’t believe they gave Motorhead a Grammy.
Lemmy: I think so too. It was just a mercy fuck as it was our
30th anniversary. They gave it to us for a cover of
somebody else’s song. It would have a lot more meaning if it had
been for one of our songs. We were nominated once before for our
album 1916. We were up against Metallica at the time and
they had just sold a quarter of a zillion albums.
Jeb: At least you didn’t lose to Jethro Tull.
Lemmy: That’s true.
Jeb: You hit sixty-five years of age. You are still selling
tickets and putting butts in the seats. Are there any goals that
you have not achieved or is there anywhere you would still like
to play?
Lemmy: We never played China, India or Africa. We also
haven’t played Russia enough. I would love to play those places.
I would love to have some sort of hit in America before we go.
Jeb: You are proof that you can still rock your ass off at
sixty-five.
Lemmy: You can as long as you are not married.
Jeb: I’m fucked.
Lemmy: Is this your second time around?
Jeb: No it is my first. I introduce her as my first wife.
Lemmy: [laughing] I bet that goes down well. She probably
hates you.
Jeb: You have never got married.
Lemmy: I have never been married but that doesn’t mean that I
didn’t mate.
Jeb: Could Lemmy ever get tied down?
Lemmy: I can’t really say. As you get older you get too many
bad habits. Who is ever going to put up with me?
Jeb: Last one: I have also heard that Motorhead stole music
gear just so they could rehearse. Is that true?
Lemmy: Well yeah. Then we got a benefactor who bought us a
van. It was a second hand van. That was back at the beginning.
We never nicked stuff from other bands because that was a no-no
because we were all in the same boat. You don’t steal from the
poor because let’s face it, they're poor. There is no sense in
that.