Hitting the Nail on the Head: An interview
with Mick Box of Uriah Heep
By Jeb Wright
Classic Rock Revisited caught up with Uriah Heep guitarist, Mick
Box, to chat up the bands 23rd studio album, titled
Into the Wild. The album is just what one would expect
from Box and his band of brothers. There are a lot of wah-wah
soaked guitars, high vocal harmonies and organ solos. After 23
albums, tens of thousands of live shows, and God only knows how
many miles traveled, Heep still manages to keep their new music
sounding fresh. The band is full of energy and they are playing
like men half their age, hell, a third of their age.
This band loves music; it’s really that simple. Uriah Heep
will be playing, writing and recording music until Box is six
feet under. Even then, if anyone can come up with a killer
guitar solo from beyond the grave, it will be Mick – just listen
for a soft, wah-wah-wah coming up from the ground and you will
know it is him!
Box is a normal guy. He just happens to have a job where he
travels to every corner of the earth and plays guitar in front
of thousands of diehard fans. He does not just respect Heep’s
fans, he genuinely loves them. He will bend over backwards to
sign an autograph, take a photo or have a short chat with any
fan of Uriah Heep. I once stood behind the band at the
merchandise booth, waiting for us to go out to dinner, in Kansas
City, Missouri while they signed autographs for an hour and a
half. In the meantime, every restaurant in the casino closed.
The casino actually called the staff back to work and opened up
a restaurant just for the band. Even then, well past Midnight,
the band insisted I sit down and join them for a meal. There are
few bands like Uriah Heep. There are also few men like Mick Box.
Into the Wild truly does hit the nail on the head. This
band is doing more to keep real rock alive, across the globe,
than perhaps any band in the world. Even better is the fact that
they still kick ass live. Hair may be gray, bellies may be
bigger and they may need their spectacles on to sign that
autograph, but rest assure Uriah Heep are alive and well.
Check out Into the Wild, as well as the Official
Bootleg Series they are releasing of live concerts from far away
places. One day I wouldn’t be surprised to see an Official
Bootleg titled, “Uriah Heep: Live on the Moon.” Until that time
comes, keep your eye on
Jeb: We have been doing interviews since 1998. How has Heep
changed during that time? What are the strengths and what are
the weaknesses?
Mick: I think as a band, we are getting stronger all the
time. Nothing really has changed, as we still have the same
focus on making good music together and to travel the world
playing it. I would be hard put to find any weaknesses right
now, as our focus is so strong.
Jeb: You have signed with Frontiers Records. Are you happy
with the results so far?
Mick: We are very happy thus far. They are happy with In
the Wild and we are happy with them. One of the reasons we
chose them was that they have a presence in the USA, which our
previous company did not have in place. This is important to us,
as we want to build our profile in the USA.
Jeb: Let's talk the inspiration behind some of the songs.
Start with "Nail on the Head."
Mick: This is from a saying in the UK. When you say “nail on
the head” it means you have got it 100% right.
Jeb: I really like "Trail of Diamonds." When you come up with
an epic Heep track is it still as exciting as when songs like
"Circle of Hands" were born?
Mick: They all have their own life, really. “Trail of
Diamonds” could easily have remained a ballad, but when Phil [Lanzon]
and I were writing it, we let it take us to other areas and it
became a bit of an epic. It is wonderful when songs grow like
this.
Jeb: "Lost" is an interesting song. Share the story behind
that one.
Mick: Lost was written by Trevor [Boulder] so hold that
question until you do an interview with him and he will tell
you.
Jeb: I mentioned epics before; you have to bring up "Kiss of
Freedom."
Mick: Phil wrote “Kiss of Freedom.” Once again, the end
developed into this long organ solo over the chorus riff. This
happened naturally, as a jam, and we kept it.
Jeb: Bernie Shaw has really helped the band create a new
signature sound. With signature sounds come a songwriting
challenge of not repeating oneself. How does the Heep camp
approach songwriting?
Mick: Very naturally, and it would be wrong for us to over
analyze. We just set about writing good songs and when it comes
time to go into the studio, we give them to the band and they
then take on a Heep flavor. Signature sounds come from the
Hammond Organ, wah-wah guitar and our harmonies.
Jeb: You face the same challenges with soloing. You have been
writing solos for several decades and there are still just the
seven same notes there used to be.
Mick: It is important to do what is good for the song. A lot
of players take soloing as a time for them to show what they can
do and the song gets lost. I always approach it as a writer
would and try to find some melody. Start with impact, find
something interesting to say in the middle, and find a strong
ending. Keep it simple and make it enhance the song.
Jeb: Do you ever find inspiration for music by reflecting
back on the past accomplishments, and tragedies, that Heep has
endured?
Mick: I have done that in the past with "Between Two Worlds,"
which was about trying to find a space between the real world,
and the other world, where I could meet David [Byron] and Gary [Thain]
and see them for a short time to see how they were doing, and to
let them know I am keeping alive the musical legacy that they
left on earth.
Jeb: A lot of classic bands are faced with realties that the
end is closer than ever before. What will be the final straw for
Uriah Heep and Mick Box?
Mick: As long as we enjoy what we do, and we have our health,
there is no need to stop. I think you only retire when there is
no audience for you to play to. Luckily, for Heep, we have an
audience in 53 countries. We have a very special relationship
with our fans, and we appreciate their support more than you can
imagine.
Jeb: Describe yourself as a guitar player. What makes you
tick, musically?
Mick: I am a person who loves playing guitar more than
anything else. I have never been driven to go the virtuoso
route. I am often told that if you hear me on the radio, then
you know it is me in a few notes, which is really cool. Also, I
have been told by many a guitarist, that I am the reason that
they picked up guitar in the first place. Now, the later of
those two things is the highest accolade I can have, and that
makes me the most proudest. ‘Who's better than who’ was never my
thing, as I am not driven by that. Just do the best that you can
with your heart and soul is my motto.
Jeb: Aside from the obvious deaths of former band members,
what was Heep's low point, emotionally?
Mick: Probably when I had to fold the Conquest line
up. I felt we lost our direction, somewhat.
Jeb: On the flip side, what is your greatest musical
accomplishment?
Mick: Being the first Western rock band to play in Russia, to
180,000 people, in December, 1987, in Moscow, would be right up
there.
Jeb: What is your most embarrassing Spinal Tap moment?
Mick: Falling off stage and breaking my wrist in four places.
I still continued on the three-month USA tour, with three
injections a night, and two casts a day.
Jeb: If Uriah Heep would become as big as Deep Purple, as
rapid, instead of a slow and steady climb, followed by a loyal
fan base, do you think you would be the same person you are
today?
Mick: Of course I would be, Jeb. The one thing I am, thank
goodness, is grounded. I never got sucked into the starship
thing.
Jeb: Tell me about the 'bootlegs' you have released. Also,
comment on the artwork IOANNIS is doing for the band. The guy is
talented...and remember how you met him... You do remember don't
you?
Mick: Yeah, thanks for the tip, Jeb. Well, the official
bootlegs are just that, a selection of bootlegs that we release
with great cover artwork by Ioannis. It gives people a chance to
hear us in countries they would not otherwise be able to, like
Sweden, Budapest, Hungary and Japan.
Jeb: We talked about a few new songs, so I will now ask that
you indulge me with your thoughts on some of the classics....
Start with "July Morning."
Mick: This song has all the hallmarks of Heep. Nice Hammond
parts , riffs and high vocals.
Jeb: Lets do "The Other Side of Midnight."
Mick: This is a good rock song that made a great stage
number. The opening riff I had written is very memorable.
Jeb: "Lady in Black"
Mick: Written by Ken Hensley about a woman he saw in the
street from his hotel window. The rest is his imagination. He
may have another story, but this is what I understand.
Jeb: "Stealin'"
Mick: Another Hensley song. This was a big radio hit in the
USA unto they realized it said "He done the ranchers daughter,"
and then it got dropped.
Jeb: "Gypsy"
Mick: This has a very earthy riff of mine that seems to
appeal to a lot of people. The song is still a strong live stage
song to this day.
Jeb: Last one: If music had not worked out which of these
occupations do you think would most have suited you: A)
Politician, B) Police Officer or C) Drug Dealer?
Mick: Politician. I managed, and tour managed, the band for
the best part of 16 years, and there were many times I had to
use the skill of a politician. We now, thankfully, have a
brilliant manager called Martin Darvill.