CLARITY OF SPIRIT: AN INTERVIEW WITH CARLOS
SANTANA
By Jeb Wright
On August 25th, Carlos Santana will hit
the road, trekking across the USA on his Collective
Consciousness Tour. The tour begins in Seattle,
Washington and ends in Los Angeles, California with
stops in-between in Oklahoma, Colorado, Missouri, Texas,
Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada and Canada. Santana’s close
friend, George Lopez, will perform on selected dates,
including two shows at Colorado’s iconic venue, Red
Rocks Amphitheater and the final date of the tour at the
infamous Hollywood Bowl.
Classic Rock Revisited caught up with Carlos to
discuss the upcoming tour, how he came to invite George
Lopez out on the road and his recent marriage to his
drummer, Cindy Blackman. Santana also discusses the
spirituality that surrounds his life and music and hooks
us up with the guy that can get us some of his cool
hats!
Jeb: As a Santana fan, can you tell me what to expect
from the upcoming tour? Are you throwing any surprises
in?
Carlos: If I tell you, then it won’t be a surprise
anymore! Basically, we always bring five things:
Genuine, Honest, Sincere, True and For Real on every
song; that makes it a good antenna to receive, and
transmit, the Holy Ghost. The songs are just vehicles.
My band is one of the few bands that consistently brings
it. When I say ‘brings it’, I mean when people listen to
our band then they are reminded, on a molecular, and
cellular level, that you have more love, energy,
kindness, passion and patience than you think. That
makes you relax with yourself, not relax like being
idle, complacent or lazy, but instead to relax and not
be frantic, desperate or nervous.
All of a sudden, you take a deep breath, and realize
that you have more than you thought. That’s what is
fortunate about my band. It brings a sound that reminds
people that they are significant and meaningful. When
people start investing too much into thinking, “I’m a
sinner” or “I’m not worthy” then that is self-defeating.
In other words, we bring clarity of conviction – not
arrogance – but clarity of spirit, and that’s why my
band is important.
Jeb: With so much going on with your music, it would
have to be a challenge to keep it all together and pull
it off in a live setting. The way you described your
band, it seems almost cosmic.
Carlos: We are at a place where everything that
Einstein said is now true. We are not so separate. The
intangible means that hope, faith and trust are the
evidence of things not seen. All of a sudden, the far
out stuff that the hippies were talking about is not so
far out.
When people talk about the game of football, they
talk a lot about the intangibles. What is intangible?
The collective willingness – that is sure a lot more
than a chalkboard full of X’s and O’s.
American is talking in a vocabulary that includes
intangibles, which is needed right now. Everyone is
paranoid about the economy, and all the other things
that are going on. All of that stuff is collective
illusion. If you turn off CNN and Fox – that’s
collective illusion, it is not reality. If you turn off
the TV and go for a walk in the park, you see the bees
doing their thing, and the birds doing their thing, and
the trees doing their thing. Mother Nature goes on and
you see that love is the only thing that is real.
Somehow, people in the United States, we invest so much
in fear that it ends up like everyday is Halloween but
without the candy; that is boring to me.
Jeb: Throughout your career, both as an individual,
and as a musician, you have been interested in
spirituality. For years, true peace eluded you. Now, for
the last ten years or so, you have found it. What
happened to get you to where you are now?
Carlos: Thank you for asking that. I consciously made
a decision to crystallize my intentions for a purpose. I
was just reading about how John Lennon, Bruce Lee, John
Coltrane, Albert Einstein, Jimi Hendrix and Bob Marley
all learned how to transform the physical difficulties
of time into the triumph of eternity. All of these
people are still here. In fact, the only ones bigger
than Bob Marley on Facebook are Eminem and Lady Gaga.
Bob Marley is huge and he died thirty years ago.
We want to bring that type of essence into things.
Everyone has that essence. You have it, I have it and
anyone reading this interview has it. Everyone really
has the essence of immortality. It is not just for
Mahatma Gandhi, Mother Teresa or Martin Luther King; all
of us have that spark of the divine, and that’s what my
band accentuates when we play. All of a sudden, you hear
it in you.
Jeb: On the West Coast you’re doing some dates where
George Lopez is opening the show. How did that come
about?
Carlos: I go to his shows a lot and he comes to my
shows a lot. We call ourselves the Divine Rascals. A
‘Divine Rascal’ is someone who has carte blanche from
God to make people laugh. Laughter is a great form of
meditation. When you have such a great belly laugh, to
where you’re eyes are crying and you almost cut the
cheese because you can’t control it, then that is the
most therapeutic medicine that you can have. To laugh
with integrity is when we laugh at ourselves and
everybody else – we have equal opportunity. We don’t
pick on short people or gay people – we just pick on
everybody. When you can pick on everybody, including
yourself, then you are able to have a sense of humor and
you won’t become postal.
Jeb: You know Carlos, I have to say this…Most guitar
players do not go out and marry their drummers!
Carlos: [chuckles] This is true, especially a drummer
who is as talented as she is. I will put it this way, I
have seen a lot of drummers play and when I see Cindy
[Blackman] play, she is in the Top 100 of men drummers,
and among the Top 3 of woman drummers, in the world. She
is like Bruce Lee on drums. She can really, really play
the drums. I am not just talking about holding time; I’m
talking improvising and playing drums like Bruce Lee.
Jeb: Did you really propose to her onstage?
Carlos: Yeah, I did.
Jeb: Did she have any idea you were going to do that?
Carlos: No.
Jeb: You’re a confidant man as that could have really
gone wrong!
Carlos: I felt that when I found her, she wanted the
same things that I wanted. Cindy and I offer this to
each other, everyday…we say to each other, with
conviction, and clarity: First time, ever, everything.
Jeb: My last one is this: I keep seeing pictures of
you in these cool hats. I think I would look cool in one
too. Where can I get one and how much will it set me
back?
Carlos: I will connect you to the guy who puts all of
that together for me. I will tell him to call you in a
little while. They’re not that expensive.
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