THE CARNIVAL OF
SIN INVADES SIN CITY: AN INTERVIEW WITH MICK MARS
BY JEB WRIGHT
The bad boys of Hard Rock will invade the Hard Rock
Hotel & Casino for a 12 day residency beginning February
2nd running through February 19th.
Motley Crue in Vegas is a no brainer, Motley at the Hard
Rock in Vegas is a genius idea. The staff of the Hard
Rock better be ready as once the Crue descend into town
things are going to get wild.
The band has always been one to reinvent themselves
and somehow, despite their endless appetite for
destruction, they continue to have success in all of
their endeavors. No other band has been as hell bent on
self destruction and yet been able to stay the course of
stardom. No band has suffered more tragedy, albeit a
large majority has been brought on by their own insane
behavior, but nonetheless they are all four still
walking and talking. Motley Crue may not be
indestructible but I bet they think they are! And why
not, as they have proved you can not only survive years
of outlandish behavior, you can actually thrive on it.
Vince Neil wins the award for Most Often In the
Police Notes, Tommy Lee gets the award for Rock’s
Biggest Dick and Nikki Sixx is among the best when it
comes to living on the edge and coming out smelling like
a rose. Guitarist Mick Mars, the stealth member of Crue
when it comes to headlines, doesn’t do much press. He is
the quiet leader of the band. He writes monstrous riffs
and keeps an eye on the business of Motley Crue doing
what ever it takes to keep the band relevant going into
their 4th decade.
Read on as Mick and I talk about the upcoming Vegas
gigs as well as some of the highlights of Crue’s past
and how he deals with the craziness. We also discuss a
possible blues album and if and when the movie version
of The Dirt will ever come to light.
Jeb: Crue has found a new way to market themselves
once again. You are going to be the Hard Rock Elvis with
the residency at the Hard Rock.
Mick: The Elvis Presley of Metal, that’s pretty
funny. There have been some rock bands – metal and rock
bands – that have played a few days in a row in Vegas. I
believe that we are the very first metal band that has
done a 12 day residency. This will set another milestone
for Motley Crue. We are like the metal Rat Pack. Vegas
has changed a lot and rock bands are now wanting to play
there. We got lucky and we got this residency at the
Hard Rock. I have to say, and I am guessing, but I
really think we are the first rock band to do that.
Jeb: Crue is the perfect band and the Hard Rock is
the perfect place.
Mick: We were actually the last band to play at
The Joint at the Hard Rock in Vegas before they
remolded the place.
Jeb: When a band can get people to travel across the
nation and come to you that is quite a compliment.
Mick: It’s all good, isn’t it? It really is kind of
crazy. We are breaking some new ground.
Jeb: Vince can drink all he wants as you can just get
him a cab back and forth each night.
Mick: [laughs] I think he still live there. I am
staying there the entire time. We play four days a week
and I am just going to hang out there the entire time. I
can’t do too much gambling.
Jeb: Will you play different sets each night?
Mick: I hope so. We are doing quite a bit of
rehearsing, with and without production. We have been
rehearsing some really obscure songs like “Bastard.” It
is going to be a surprise for me to see how this all
works out.
Jeb: Do you think Motley Crue will continue to do
these kinds of residencies?
Mick: I know it is a cool thing we are doing, and
that we are probably going to make this possible for
other bands to do the same thing. I don’t know if we are
planning on doing more of this type of thing or not. We
are going to have to check it out and see. For me,
personally, I like to jump on the bus every night and go
around and see the whole world but we will have to see
how this works out.
Jeb: There has been a lot of talk that Motley Crue is
working on a new record.
Mick: We have a lot of things in the works. We want
to do things like Crue Fest. The music business is
really tweaking out and getting weird. I think it is
ridiculous what is happening. I think the future will
have to see bands put together really cool packages that
will be worth it for people to go see. As far as new
music goes, I can tell you that I am writing a bunch of
new material. Nikki is writing a lot as well. I am
hoping that we will have a new record out by 2013.
Jeb: I would love to hear your new stuff. You are one
of the best riff writers around.
Mick: I took lessons from Keith Richards [laughter].
Jeb: A lot of fans worry about you because of your
health issues. Are you able to survive a tour?
Mick: The thing is, as always, that I am able to keep
touring. It is one of those things that I call an
inconvenience. Of course I have days that are worse than
others and there is always some amount of pain with my
hips. There are good days and bad days but it is more of
an inconvenience than anything else. I don’t feel sick.
There are a lot of people that go around that suffer
from this type of thing and they go to their doctor and
he tells them that they will be in a wheelchair. My
advice to them is to go to another doctor because he is
wrong. There are some things about this thing that I’ve
got that are not so cool, but there is one thing that is
cool – I ended up bent. I can always see my guitar. If
I’d been straight then I would not be able to see myself
play [laughter].
Jeb: Have you always been the quiet leader of Motley
Crue?
Mick: In a way but it is more like being a silent
partner. Look, I love music but I do stay on top of the
business end because it is a business. I love writing
music, traveling and getting paid to see the world but
you have to keep your eye on what is going on around
you.
Jeb: Were you young and dumb and lucky or did you
know music is what you were going to do with your life?
You do not even have a high school education.
Mick: I had every intention of being who I am today.
It didn’t matter how many days, or years, that it took,
or how many dues I had to pay.
Jeb: Was there a moment where you knew you were going
to be a musician?
Mick: My moment was when I was three years old. I
went to a 4H Fair, I grew up in Indiana. I went to the
Fair and I saw this country musician play at the Fair,
his name was Skeeter Bond and he had on this orange
outfit with sequins all over it and he wore this large
Stetson hat and he played guitar and sang. I was three
years old and I said, “That’s what I’m doing with my
life.” My Mom cut my hair like Elvis Presley and by
seven years old I started picking at the guitar. I got
into surf music like Dick Dale – I know Dick Dale and he
is a really cool guy. I have to tell you that it is
really weird to meet the people that you studied growing
up. Next came Ed Sullivan with the Beatles and I said,
“Oh, this is something different.” I keep moving on and
studying things and I found the Rolling Stones. I
discovered Paul Butterfield and guys like Mike
Bloomfield. I just kept moving on and checking out new
musicians.
Jeb: A lot of bands that came after Crue saw the
guitar player go more the Van Halen route. I think you
stuck with the old school pentatonic style. Am I off
base with that?
Mick: Not at all, I feel that is very true.
Throughout the ‘80’s and ‘90’s guys were lining up to go
to GIT and all they did were learn how to play scales
and learn how to play them really fast. At the end of
the day, all they ended up learning was scales. I could
have done that but I stayed true to what I lived. Here
is good for instance, Eric Clapton said he was playing
with BB King and he was playing this barrage of notes
and the crowd was just sitting there. BB King played one
note and the crowd went wild. That goes to show that it
is not how many notes you play but rather how you play
them.
Jeb: You are not afraid to use a slide in a song and
you stay you despite the fact that most guys in bands
like Crue were more into Steve Vai.
Mick: There are a lot of people that really like to
play like that. Steve and I are really good friends. He
is the kind of musician that when he plays to a regular
crowd, that are not into what he does, he can play over
their head. He is on the guitar like Terry Bozzio is on
drums. He is so good that he is like rock’s version of
Picasso. You have to remember that Picasso got so good
that he started fucking up his paintings. Steve is one
of those guys who can play a million notes but then turn
around and play something very melodic too. There are
not many players as gifted as he is.
Jeb: Do you feel that Motley Crue changed music? I
mean you sold Too Fast for Love out of the trunk
of your car and created a genre for yourself. Motley
Crue ushered in the whole 1980’s Sunset Strip Glam Metal
thing. Do you take pride that you’re the Godfather of
that movement?
Mick: I really don’t feel like I am. I don’t feel
like I did that. A couple of people have said that to me
before but I don’t think I did anything special. I just
did what I did, that’s all.
Jeb: You had a vision for Motley Crue and the guys in
the band are about ten years younger than you. Did you
ever worry that getting with a bunch of young and crazy
guys might backfire on you?
Mick: No, and I will tell you why. It is because my
age wasn’t my age. I was thirty but I wasn’t thinking
like a thirty year old. I was thinking more like a
teenager. I was hungry and I wanted to make it. There
were other guys like me, who were thirty at the time,
and they would tell me, “I’m happy just playing clubs.”
Well, now they are happy selling Kentucky Fried Chicken,
aren’t they?
Jeb: How important was playing the US Festival for
Motley Crue?
Mick: It was very important for us. I believe, if I
remember correctly, the guy that put that on US Festival
actually went around looking for a new band to open the
show. I don’t know if that is fact, or if it is just a
legend, but I heard he went around to high schools and
clubs and looked for a great new band and we ended up
being that band. The US Festival was the Woodstock of
the West Coast; there were over 300,000 people there. It
was definitely a huge milestone for us and helped us get
noticed.
Jeb: In retrospect, do you feel all of the drinking
and drugs and crazy sexual stuff with groupies detracted
from the musical legacy of Motley Crue?
Mick: Any kind of publicity is good publicity. I
don’t care. If we were in the newspaper then I didn’t
care what it said. Led Zeppelin were the same way. Their
reviews were really bad and they had tons of stories
about how they behaved offstage. Guess what? Led
Zeppelin was in the papers and they became huge. It
never bothered me what people thought of me.
Jeb: As stated earlier, you are the quiet leader of
the band. How did you deal with things like Vince’s car
wreck and Nikki’s overdose?
Mick: When you first hear about these things it is a
really numbing feeling. All you can really do is say
what’s on your mind. When Nikki overdosed I really
didn’t know what to say to him. I just said, “Well, Sixx
that was a really good move.” I will tell you something
that sucked about that was that our tour manager told
us, “You get to call up the people in Europe and tell
them that you have to cancel all of the tour dates
because Nikki overdosed.” I was like, “Oh my God, what
am I going to say to them?” I was already upset because
here is my bass player who OD’d and all I could do was
tell him, “Dude, don’t do this shit. You’re going to get
really hooked on this shit and it’s going to get bad.”
Jeb: The fact that you four are still alive and able
to perform is a miracle.
Mick: I know. It is really weird. We depend on each
other for our livelihood. The guys have all done solo
things but nothing has come close to being what Motley
Crue is for all of us.
Jeb: I heard you’re doing a solo album.
Mick: I am thinking about it. There is word out about
it and everybody is saying that I’m doing a blues
record. It will be a blues record per se but it will be
more like how Edgar Winter interprets the blues. It will
have a ‘70’s kind of feeling but I will be writing a
more current style of music. I want to mix those two
styles together. I’m an old school guy and everything
that I write for me I always ask, “Will Motley Crue be
able to play this onstage?” If the answer is ‘no’ then I
scrap it for Crue but I put it away. I have to feel
really good about what I’m doing or I go back and start
from scratch.
Jeb: Are you writing for other artists?
Mick: I have written some stuff with James Durbin
from American Idol. I’m the only guitar player that he
wanted to play on his record. I am going to go see him
at the Roxy. He is a good guy.
Jeb: The other guys in the band usually handle press.
You don’t do a lot of interviews. Why is that?
Mick: I guess I don’t believe in my own hype. I don’t
need to have a tremendously huge ego and I don’t need to
thumb my nose at people. That, to me, is total bullshit.
I am a guy who loves to write and play music and that is
what I have been doing. Some of the music I have been
writing may not be good for a live situation but it may
be good for movies or commercials. I wouldn’t mind
getting into some television and movie stuff.
Jeb: Speaking of TV, you were on the TV show Bones.
That was pretty cool.
Mick: [laughing] Oh yeah, I remember that, it was
fun. I remember we played and the entire cast was like,
“What the hell? How do we follow that?”
Jeb: Going way back, you were a guy named Bob Deal
and you looked like everyone else who was in a rock band
in the 1970’s. You had the look of the day so I want to
know what made you dye your hair black, go glam and
change your name to Mick Mars.
Mick: I was reinventing myself. That particular look
for the ‘70’s was a really good look but things were
changing and I needed to change too. I either could dye
my hair bright orange or black, either one would have
worked. The mustache had to go as it was totally out of
style. My plan was to quit playing in stupid cover
bands. I used a lot of bands as stepping stones. I had a
guy that really believed in me that wanted to put money
into the cover band that I was in. I said, “No, don’t do
that. I will find some other people.” I put my ad in the
paper and it said, “Loud, rude, aggressive guitarist”
and Nikki saw it and called me. I was playing with him
and then Tommy came in and that is when I told Allen
Kovac, “I found a band.” He had the money so that we
could push everything together really quickly. We were
really a bunch of hungry kids.
Jeb: My favorite Crue album is not the most popular.
I simply can’t get over the rawness of Too Fast for
Love. What is the album that is most special to your
heart?
Mick: I would have to say Too Fast for Love
because it is really raw. We started recording that just
a few months after we were together. I think we actually
played one time live at the Starwood and then we went in
the studio. I found a studio and Michael Wagener was a
friend of mine and he recorded it. The guy that was the
house engineer screwed everything up so Michael had to
go through it and fix it the best he could. Roy Thomas
Baker then entered and we had to go back in the studio
and redo it again. We didn’t do all of it, we just had
to do little parts and then Roy would fix it all.
Shortly after that, we started recording Shout at the
Devil.
For all intents and purposes, Too Fast for Love
was just a demo for us to try and get a record deal. Tom
Zutat from Elektra, which is the record company that
when I was a kid, this is the honest to God truth, that
both Joe Cocker and the Paul Butterfield Blues band were
on, and I said back then that Elektra was the label that
I wanted to be on. Here comes Tom Zutaut and Elektra
ended up being the place we signed. Another record
company came in and offered us more money but Elektra
was the label I wanted to be on.
Jeb: You’ve had a lot of happy coincidences in your
life.
Mick: Yeah but I have paid my dues too.
Jeb: Is The Dirt still going to be a movie and
if so, who do you want to play you in the movie?
Mick: if I really had my choice and I could afford
the guy then I would pick Gary Oldman. I have seen him
in so many movies and he looks different every time. I
think he could pull me off. It will be coming out as a
movie. I don’t know exactly when but we’ve talked to
directors and producers and it is in the works. It will
happen.