KICKING, SCREAMING & SINGING HIS ASS OFF: AN INTERVIEW WITH
SEBASTIAN BACH
By Jeb Wright
Sebastian Bach seems to always be in the headlines. Way
back when, it was for wearing t-shirts with derogatory statements
against homosexuals printed on them, or for making inane comments about
people, places or things – sometimes about his own band mates. As the
years past, Sebastian continued to amaze us, whether it be by showing
himself as a drunken fool and getting beaten up on a VH1 reality show,
getting in bar fights that ended up on YouTube, or by opening mouth,
once again, and inserting foot.
As much as Sebastian has fucked up over the years, there
is something very endearing about him. He can go from drunken rock star
to that dude on the Gilmore Girls in a heartbeat. He can host a
VH1 special and make us laugh the way we would hanging out with buddies
at the local bar. While one Sebastian Bach hangs out with Axl Rose and
is a prima donna rock star, another Sebastian Bach could be in the
backseat of our car head banging to “Bohemian Rhapsody” by Queen as we
cruised down the highway to see a concert. It is this diverse
personality that makes Bach so entertaining. The likable Bach is a true
rock fan in every sense of the word. This guy loves music. He
recently lost his home due to damage inflicted by a hurricane but one
wonders if he will miss his house or his rock ‘n’ roll memorabilia
collection more.
Bach makes us relate to him because we love music too.
The major difference between us and him is that Bach has sold millions
of records with Skid Row and we did not – that and the blond haired good
looks. One must understand that Bach, underneath the rock singer front
is nothing more than a total rock nerd. Sure, he takes things to
extremes, but I wonder how many of the people reading these words would
not do the same things, or worse, if we were afforded the same
opportunities he has been afforded in his career. I know I would be a
total ass; hell, some think I am one now, just imagine if ego met fame
and money?
Despite his success on television, the one thing that
Bach has yet to accomplish is a solo effort that can sit proudly next to
his output with Skid Row. Many thought his last album, Angel Down,
was it but time has proven that it was not. It rocked but where it
contained tons of attitude it lacked musical soul. At the end of the
day, it was just another Sebastian Bach solo release that fell by the
wayside.
While Bach has been able to have multifaceted success,
and even become a brand unto himself, he has not been able to match his
former band mates in the musical department. In fairness, Skid Row has
not been able to thrive outside of Bach’s shadow, either. While Bach
wins the fame game, overall, musically, their careers, when put next to
each other, have been a stalemate…until now.
On September 27th, Sebastian Bach will
release a new album titled, Kicking & Screaming that is, by far,
the best work he has done since his days in Skid Row. The album,
produced by veteran producer Bob Marlette, sees Bach pouring his heart
and soul, both musically and lyrically, into his music. He is full of
more angst that usual, as he recently suffered a divorce from his wife
of 18 years, a woman who was also his emotional anchor. Bach snarls,
yells, quibbles and cries through songs that both celebrate, and curse,
love. He wears his heart on his sleeve and expresses his emotions loud
and clear.
Perhaps it was the emotional turmoil that Bach was going
through at the time the album was being written that led to this being
his most honest and legitimate release. Perhaps Bach has begun the
process of growing up at age 43, well, maybe not growing up, but at
least learning a bit about life.
We would never really want Sebastian Bach to totally
grow up. We need him to retain at least a tad of that youth gone wild
spirit we have come to expect from him. If Bach can find the balance
between drunken idiot, prima donna lead singer, loudmouth metal head,
musician and grown man then he stands a chance at a much more successful
solo career than he has had up to this point. Lets hope he can find that
balance, albeit it’s a safe bet that if he does then he won’t go
quietly. Sebastian Bach will go into adulthood the only way he knows
how…kicking and screaming all the way.
Jeb: Before we talk about the new CD, Kicking &
Screaming, tell me about your house getting fucked up by the
hurricane.
Sebastian: I lost my home, dude. I’m living in a hotel.
My kids are homeless, my ex-wife is homeless and I’m homeless. It’s no
fun.
Jeb: From the bottom of my heart, I feel for you and all
of the victims of the storm.
Sebastian: I never had a drop of water in my basement in
twenty years and now there is no foundation. It caved the whole
foundation in and I have never seen anything like it. They never
evacuated us but a dude from FIMA came over the day before the hurricane
and told us we should go but we weren’t evacuated. I was playing a
concert in Colorado with Godsmack and Twisted Sister. I guess Twisted
Sister saved me.
Jeb: I have some memorabilia so I cringed when I heard
you lost some stuff.
Sebastian: I lost an incredible amount of stuff. I have
been in the house the last three or four days and my lungs are all
fucked up because of that fucking black mold and shit in the house. I am
making myself sick. It really is sickening. We have to wear these masks
and it is horrible. My fucking house is condemned. It is the house that
was on MTV Cribs -- it’s condemned.
Jeb: I could believe you lived in a condemned house way
back…
Sebastian: [laughter] Yeah, back when I first started.
Jeb: A more positive album is Kicking & Screaming.
I am not one of those guys who is just going to tell you everything you
do is wonderful. Angel Down, your last CD, was full of great
reviews but I didn’t like it. It was just okay. I think this album
deserves those great reviews. I like the new album a lot.
Sebastian: Angel Down was, up to that time, the
best reviewed CD that I had ever put out, solo. It’s okay that you don’t
like it. This album has been getting great reviews. Some of them even
say what you just said, that Angel Down wasn’t as good as the
reviews said but this one is.
Jeb: You have been knocked on your voice before but I
want to tell you that your voice sounds killer on this new release. You
are back, man.
Sebastian: Everybody is telling me that too. I think the
credit for that goes to my producer, Bob Marlette. I agree with you, it
sounds like me but cooler --- [laughter] I don’t know how to describe
it.
Jeb: There is a noticeable improvement.
Sebastian: Thank you man, I really appreciate that. My
new guitar player, Nick Sterling, is a very melodic player. When I did
Angel Down the guitar player was Metal Mike from Halford’s band.
We all love Judas Priest and there is a big Judas Priest influence on
that album. On this record, this is more of a hard rock, melodic record.
It is not so much a heavy metal album. The album has more melodies and
hooks than Angel Down. I can’t take all of the credit for this,
as Nick is a great songwriter. Nick is a little kid that came out of
nowhere. He wrote the ballad “I’m Alive” when he was sixteen or
seventeen. To me, that just blows my mind because that song is so
mature. Its like something Eric Clapton could have written. I don’t know
how a guy who is only a teenager can write things that are so mature
sounding.
Jeb: Where did you find Nick?
Sebastian: I found him in Guitar World magazine. I went
to his website and these riffs were coming out of my computer speakers
that I couldn’t believe. There was a song on there ended up on my album
and it’s called “Dance On Your Grave.”
As a singer, I love riffs. If I hear a good riff, then I
can write a melody on top of it and come up with the words. I think that
is a really fun way to write. Nick has riff, after riff, after riff and
for a guy like me, that is a dream come true.
In Skid Row we had some incredible riffs but we didn’t
click, personally. Nick and I can just sit down on my couch -- wait, I
don’t have a fucking couch anymore [laughter]. We can sit down on your
couch, or anyone’s couch, as long as they have a couch, with an acoustic
guitar and a little tape deck and we can have a great time writing
songs. We actually wrote two songs like that, “One Good Reason” and
“Lost in the Light.” We don’t argue at all. It is just a lot of fun
writing music with Nick.
Jeb: I was going to ask if “Dance On Your Grave” was
about anyone in particular.
Sebastian: I wrote the chorus but he had the verses
already written. He broke up with a girl when he was writing some of
these songs, years ago, and I just split up with my wife of eighteen
years. A lot of lyrics he brought to me were about breaking up with the
one that you love, so it was like, freaky. A lot of the songs on the
record are about that. Some of the songs are about finding a new love.
You can only write about what you’re feeling and going through.
One of my buddies is John Rich, from the country band
Big & Rich. He told me, “Sebastian, don’t ever be afraid to write about
what you feel because someone out there is feeling exactly what you’re
feeling.” I think that is fucking heavy. Sometimes as a songwriter, I
would think, “I wonder if anyone will relate to what I’m writing?” I
have learned that is not how you look at it. You have to write what
you’re feeling in your heart. If you are feeling emotions then the odds
are other people are feeling those exact emotions, or have been through
what you are going through.
Jeb: Everyone has lost a long-term relationship.
Sebastian: Everyone I talk too says, “Dude, I love this
album. I just broke up with my chick.”
Jeb: I’m still married. I can’t afford to get divorced!
Sebastian: Neither can I, man. Somebody tweeted me last
night and said, “Hey man, is the name of your new record The
Hurricane Took Everything My Wife Didn’t.”
Jeb: [Laughter] Talk about what you want from this
album.
Sebastian: I like high energy, dirty rock ‘n’ roll. I
was the metal head in Skid Row. I was the guy who wanted to push that
band from pop metal or punk metal, or whatever it was, to more heavy
metal. They used to say, “Sebastian’s hard to work with and he has a big
ego.” What a bunch of horseshit. Here is what you get when you’re in a
band with me: You’re going to get kick ass music. I’m not hard to work
with. I’m passionate and I know what I want to hear coming out of the
speakers and I want it to kick ass. I think my records speak on their
own as opposed to what those guys have put out without me. Over time, I
think people will not remember me as a front man for Skid Row.
I am a metal head and I love rock n roll. My dad was an
artist and he just created all the time. I am like that but I make CDS
and album covers. I just love all of that stuff. I’m lucky that
Frontiers Records pulled out all of the stops for me and gave me this
opportunity. I got a great record deal, dude, in 2011. I consider myself
very lucky.
Jeb: There is a song on the album that is not brought up
a lot in interviews but I think it could be a huge hit single. The name
of the song…
Sebastian: Wait a minute… Let me see if I can guess
which song it is.
Jeb: Guess away.
Sebastian: Is it “Dream Forever”?
Jeb: Fuckin’ A, you nailed it.
Sebastian: Are you serious?
Jeb: I am 100% serious.
Sebastian: Everybody is telling me that. I kind of new
that is what you were going to say. We didn’t even shoot a video for
that one -- maybe we should.
Jeb: This is going to sound odd but I think that song is
what we want out of you but it may not be what one would expect out of
you.
Sebastian: Wow, everybody is saying that to me. I am
hearing what you’re saying.
Jeb: I have been married almost as long as you were
married. I am sorry that it didn’t work out. However, I heard the girl
in the “Kicking & Screaming” video is your girlfriend.
Sebastian: She is my girlfriend. She’s in her
mid-twenties and I’m in my mid-forties. To be honest with you, I want to
be way more serious with her than she is with me; that’s all I can say.
Jeb: She’s a beautiful woman.
Sebastian: Oh God, she is. She added so much to this
record. I really should have a separate ‘thank you’ for her. I met her
right before I got divorced, back in January, and here we are in
September and I am still totally in love with her. I want a girl that is
going to travel around with me and go on the road with me and I’m not
sure if she is willing to make that commitment to me. You can’t control
other people but we will see what happens with that. The times I’ve had
with her are incredible and I look forward to more. I am single and I
don’t know what’s going to happen with that but she is so fucking pretty
its ridiculous. She is a beautiful girl and she is a very nice person
too.
Jeb: If God said to me, “I’m going to have a hurricane
wipe out your house, your wife divorce you and your family move away
from you but you get to hit that. I would have to go hmm...
Sebastian: I know, I know. She is not easily tamed;
she’s a pretty wild chick.
Jeb: I have a couple of serious questions… You have made
Sebastian Bach a brand, there is Bach the TV guy and there is Bach the
guy in Skid Row. Musically, you have not been able to get the same
musical notoriety that you have as you did with Skid Row. Is that
frustrating to you?
Sebastian: It is frustrating but at the end of the day,
the cream rises to the top. Music is the most long lasting art form.
When you watch a TV show and it goes off the air, you don’t think about
it. TV doesn’t haunt your brain the way that music does. You can put on
VH1 Classic, right now, and I guarantee you that today you will see “18
and Life,” “Youth Gone Wild” or “Monkey Business.” Those songs have
lasted over twenty years and they still get played all over the world
today -- twenty years after they were released. Television is a
disposable art form. Music is in your heart forever and ever. It is
frustrating for me but the satisfaction for me is knowing that if I were
to get hit by a truck tomorrow, Kicking & Screaming would be a
huge fucking record because, at the end of the day, people want to put
it onto their iPod and listen to it.
At this point, I don’t think it matters so much if it is
Skid Row or Sebastian Bach. I think what matters is if the song kicks
ass. When I crank up Ozzy Osborne’s “I Don’t Know” or “Over the
Mountain” or “Believer” I don’t care that he is not in Black Sabbath
anymore. I have the Sabbath records and I have the Ozzy records and I
like them both.
I think Nick Sterling and I are very much along the same
lines as Ozzy Osbourne and Randy Rhoads. We are the same age difference.
He is a great guitar player like Randy and I’m a drunken, crazy
motherfucker like Ozzy [laughter]. I’ve been looking for my Randy Rhoads
my whole life and I think I’ve found him. It sounds like I’ve found him.
I have been on the road with Nick for a couple of years and I really
love playing with Nick. It is very exciting. It is more exciting than
doing a reunion tour that is just playing old songs. Making new music,
to me, is always going to be more interesting than just playing old
stuff over and over.
Jeb: I understand your point of view but I would love to
see a Skid Row reunion.
Sebastian: It would be a different thing if the guys in
Skid Row said, “Let’s make a record and go out and support it.” That
would be totally different to me but nobody is saying that. All I’m
hearing is, “Lets do a reunion tour.” I am not interested in that.
Making a new Skid Row record would be exciting. I said that to one of
the promoting agents once and he said, “Sebastian, don’t ever say that
again.” I said, “Why?” He goes, “You guys would get in a fight about the
record and then the tour would never happen.” I am like, “What the fuck
are we doing this for?” It seems like the tail is wagging the dog.
Jeb: I have to say this, in your career you’ve fucked up
a lot in public.
Sebastian: Everything I do is in public. If your friend
that’s a plumber gets in a fight in a bar then it is not going to be in
the newspaper. If I get in a fight in a bar then it is in the newspaper
and all over the Internet. I don’t think I’ve fucked up anymore than any
43-year-old dunderheaded dude tripping around the USA but everything I
do is in public. I can’t even take out the garbage without people -- I
can’t even take out the garbage now at all -- but when I used to have to
take out my garbage, I would tell myself, “Okay, here we go” and I would
lug my garbage cans out and every time it would be, ‘honk honk’ “SKID
ROW! YOUTH GONE WILD!” I’d be like, “I’m taking out my garbage for
fucksake.” I understand what you’re saying but a lot of guys get in
fights in bars.
Jeb: I understand Frontiers is releasing several
versions of the album.
Sebastian: I do have to tell you about the album as
everything comes out in the USA on September 27th. The thing
I am really excited about is the deluxe CD/DVD limited edition that has
an hour long DVD that I made called As Long As I’ve Got the Music.
We were touring arenas and stadiums with Guns N Roses and Axl let me use
his fucking five-camera shoot, with ProTools at the board. The DVD is as
cool as the new CD that comes with it. It is over an hour long of live
concert footage from Chili, Columbia, England, Canada and Spain. The
concert in Spain is really funny because I’m doing these Spanish raps
where I’m going, “Your name is Sebastian and my name is Sebastian.”
Everyone was laughing their asses off. It also has the three videos we
shot for the album. There is a bunch of stuff from behind the scenes. If
you like Oh Say Can You Scream,Road Rage and Road Kill
that I put out on my last release, then you will think this DVD is
really awesome.
There is also a LP version with a gatefold sleeve, which
is really cool. This is the first vinyl record that I’ve put out since
1991, I think. When Frontiers said that I had to design the gatefold
sleeve I was thrilled. Designing my own gatefold sleeve was totally fun.
If you want to go to www.merchdirect.com you can get a bundle that
includes a collectable t-shirt. Frontiers Records has pulled out all of
the stops and really given me a great shot at getting this all out to
the fans. It is all very, very high quality, which I totally appreciate.
I’m very, very humbled and thankful for the chance to put out all of
this cool product. I need to tell you that I’m really, really
appreciative to them for all they are doing for me.
Jeb: I love That Metal Show on VH1 Classic. Only Don
Jamison and Jim Florentine could get Sebastian Bach talking about
people’s dick sizes on national television [laughter]. However, as funny
as they are, you were the one that made me fall off my couch when you
were at the Eddie Trunk Box of Junk for the trivia section and you
introduced yourself as Johnny Solinger, who is, of course, the guy who
replaced you in Skid Row.
Sebastian: That guy goes around with his long blonde
hair, his black shirt and his big shades and hat on… If you’re blind in
one eye then you might think that it’s me up there. Get your own fucking
look, dude. Its almost like they are trying to clone me, visually. He
needs to take the shades and the hat off and we’ll see who looks like
Sebastian Bach.
Jeb: Last one: The next time I see you I am going to buy
you a beer and we can sit down and argue which Ozzy album is the best.
Sebastian: Maybe you can show me your memorabilia
collection, since mine’s underwater. I would love that.
Jeb: My prize collectable is the platinum album to
Free For All that belonged to Uncle Ted Nugent.
Sebastian: Oh my Lord, that’s a real good one. I love
Ted.
Jeb: You were on Super group with Ted. You guys seemed
to get pretty close on that show.
Sebastian: Yeah, well, a little drinking goes a long way
on a television show [laughter]. When we get out on the road I want you
to come see me. I will take you up on that drink. We’ll talk about rock
‘n’ roll and have a great time.